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No question I'd stick James Beattie in the squad if we could pick him up for about £4m. He's a different tpye of striker to the rest at the club (Martins = PACE, Owen = CLINICAL, Sibierski = HOLDER UPPER, Amoebi = SHITE). So he could complement any of them really, perhaps not Sib.

 

He's had a poor time at Everton but they don't really play to his strengths and he's always done well when I've seen him at St James' so he would be my first buy.

 

Beattie = £4m

Bridge = £4m

Cicinho= £2m (Worth taking a chance on at this price)

Jankulovski = £4m (Can cover either flank as a full back)

Wes Brown = £3m (To partner Taylor at CB)

Distin = £3m (To partner Taylor/Brown at CB)

 

This little lot would make me feel far more optimistic about the good times coming back. I think we'd be well placed to challenge for a Top 5 spot with these additions.

 

We could subsidise alot of these by sales too:-

 

Bramble = £1m

Carr = £1m

Babayaro = £1m

Luque = £4m

 

That would pay for at least two of my suggestions.

 

Exactly what kind of striker is Beattie apart from crap? Why bother with him? The money would be better spent on someone like Nugent

 

He gets a lot of stick does Beattie but I think he would do a job with Martins/Owen because of his strength and running off the ball (taking players with him).

 

I fully expected to get some shit for saying I'd buy him but I think he'd add something to our squad, especially with Sib being a year older and less mobile next year.

 

I think he'd fit right into the squad and the area, he's english, he's not got a bad injury record and he's still young (ish).

 

A sound investment in my eyes.

 

Ok, he may not be the worst signing ever but for that kind of money (£4million-ish) we could buy a far better striker.

Ok, on the basis Nugent has been quoted as costing over £4m (and isn't proven in the premier league) who would you suggest?

Not being arsey BTW, just think Beattie is a great bet if we could get him for that price.

No question I'd stick James Beattie in the squad if we could pick him up for about £4m. He's a different tpye of striker to the rest at the club (Martins = PACE, Owen = CLINICAL, Sibierski = HOLDER UPPER, Amoebi = SHITE). So he could complement any of them really, perhaps not Sib.

 

He's had a poor time at Everton but they don't really play to his strengths and he's always done well when I've seen him at St James' so he would be my first buy.

 

Beattie = £4m

Bridge = £4m

Cicinho= £2m (Worth taking a chance on at this price)

Jankulovski = £4m (Can cover either flank as a full back)

Wes Brown = £3m (To partner Taylor at CB)

Distin = £3m (To partner Taylor/Brown at CB)

 

This little lot would make me feel far more optimistic about the good times coming back. I think we'd be well placed to challenge for a Top 5 spot with these additions.

 

We could subsidise alot of these by sales too:-

 

Bramble = £1m

Carr = £1m

Babayaro = £1m

Luque = £4m

 

That would pay for at least two of my suggestions.

 

Exactly what kind of striker is Beattie apart from crap? Why bother with him? The money would be better spent on someone like Nugent

He gets a lot of stick does Beattie but I think he would do a job with Martins/Owen because of his strength and running off the ball (taking players with him).

I fully expected to get some shit for saying I'd buy him but I think he'd add something to our squad, especially with Sib being a year older and less mobile next year.

I think he'd fit right into the squad and the area, he's english, he's not got a bad injury record and he's still young (ish).

A sound investment in my eyes.

No question I'd stick James Beattie in the squad if we could pick him up for about £4m. He's a different tpye of striker to the rest at the club (Martins = PACE, Owen = CLINICAL, Sibierski = HOLDER UPPER, Amoebi = SHITE). So he could complement any of them really, perhaps not Sib.

He's had a poor time at Everton but they don't really play to his strengths and he's always done well when I've seen him at St James' so he would be my first buy.

Beattie = £4m

Bridge = £4m

Cicinho= £2m (Worth taking a chance on at this price)

Jankulovski = £4m (Can cover either flank as a full back)

Wes Brown = £3m (To partner Taylor at CB)

Distin = £3m (To partner Taylor/Brown at CB)

This little lot would make me feel far more optimistic about the good times coming back. I think we'd be well placed to challenge for a Top 5 spot with these additions.

We could subsidise alot of these by sales too:-

Bramble = £1m

Carr = £1m

Babayaro = £1m

Luque = £4m

That would pay for at least two of my suggestions.

Id expect Emre and Duff to start on the bench if they are fit enough.

 

Parker and Dyer back in.. maybe Sibbers on the bench as a precaution aswell.

 

I'd go with the complete opposite of that TBH. I would start Emre with Butt as they've both looked different players without Parker.

 

I'd also start Sibbers with Martins to further develop their partnership and leave Dyer on the bench becuase he's the only person capable of really changing a game in the last 35 minutes if we need to chase the win AND he's hardly the most reliable person to play against a big, physical Watford side scrapping for points.

 

Duff will start if fit.

 

I agree with what your saying, but Emre, Duff and Sibbers will need easing back, whilst Parker and Dyer are raring to go.

 

Its not a case of who would be best, its putting the fit players in and avoiding further injuring the player that are coming back, holding them back for the chelsea game certainly wont be a bad thing either.

 

The way he has been playing id pick emre ahead of Parker, but we need to keep our players off the injury table until the end of January at least.

Why would Emre, Duff and Sibbers need easing back and not Parker? Just because he hasn't played for a while doesn't mean he's less likely to get injured again.

He's had the most serious injury out of all of them so I would have HE would need easing back?

I think AZ will beat Newcastle. If you win 1-2 in Sevilla agianst the Waffa Cup holders AND title contenders of Spain; if you are above Ajax in the Netherlands.... yeah they'll beat Newcastle!

There is a lot of football to be played by the time (even, IF) we play AZ not to mention a transfer window with a potentially full wallet for Glenn to empty so I wouldn't be making too many assumptions on this one.

Also, no club will relish a trip a turkey.

Id expect Emre and Duff to start on the bench if they are fit enough.

 

Parker and Dyer back in.. maybe Sibbers on the bench as a precaution aswell.

 

I'd go with the complete opposite of that TBH. I would start Emre with Butt as they've both looked different players without Parker.

 

I'd also start Sibbers with Martins to further develop their partnership and leave Dyer on the bench becuase he's the only person capable of really changing a game in the last 35 minutes if we need to chase the win AND he's hardly the most reliable person to play against a big, physical Watford side scrapping for points.

 

Duff will start if fit.

 

2nd that

not sure about that,bearing in mind how long duffs been out i reckon he'll go dyer on the right and milner left if sibbs is fit(ie no need for dter to play up front)

You might be right - I would have thought he would want a naturallt left sided/footed player on the wing that was my theory.

I suppose it depends on how fit Duff is.

Dont fancy playing Fenerbache again to be honest.

 

We won't have to.

 

Why are you so sure about that?

 

Erm AZ will beat them?

 

I think Fener are favorites against AZ.

If they are, they shouldn't be.

roeder in the chron

 

dyer is back

parker is back

duff has made 'amazing recovery' and should be involved tomorrow

emre has a chance of playing

nobby is 50-50

sibierski will be assessed after the game

 

So, presumably, that means Sibbers will start again?

 

Any mention of the fat lepricorn?

 

"...Glenn also mentioned to me at training: "Steven Carr will be sold. I'm sick of having a fat, overweight and overpaid excuse for a football at my club."

 

 

 

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To which I responded "but Glenn, can we not have a Geordie right back? You know, a proper one, not one of those foreign types. Someone who'll give me loads of interviews and talk shite that I can then communicate to the Geordie Nation who hang off my every word"

"Can Shola not play there next season Glenn - please?"

roeder in the chron

 

dyer is back

parker is back

duff has made 'amazing recovery' and should be involved tomorrow

emre has a chance of playing

nobby is 50-50

sibierski will be assessed after the game

So, presumably, that means Sibbers will start again?

Any mention of the fat lepricorn?

Id expect Emre and Duff to start on the bench if they are fit enough.

 

Parker and Dyer back in.. maybe Sibbers on the bench as a precaution aswell.

I'd go with the complete opposite of that TBH. I would start Emre with Butt as they've both looked different players without Parker.

I'd also start Sibbers with Martins to further develop their partnership and leave Dyer on the bench becuase he's the only person capable of really changing a game in the last 35 minutes if we need to chase the win AND he's hardly the most reliable person to play against a big, physical Watford side scrapping for points.

Duff will start if fit.

On the positive side it will more than likely rule him out of any January move.

 

I doubt we would want to sell him (even though he's looked unhappy this season) but if Arsene and the rest of his 'froggy' chums come calling we might have been forced to flog him.

 

He won't be passing any medicals in Jan now.

 

In his absence, maybe we can change formation to 4-3-3 and play a narrow game whilst Duff is getting fit? It wouldn't be pretty but it might get us through some games with a point rather than nothing.

 

Play Sibbers up top (if fit) through the middle to hold the ball up and lay it off to martins on the right and rossi on the left?

 

What do you think?

 

I think the last person who played 4-3-3 got his P45.

Fair point but I reckon Sib could do a job through the middle with Martins/Milner or Rossi running down the sides, creating things.

It would NOT be pretty to watch or entertaining but it might be an effective way of picking up points when some of our more creative players are injured (Zog, Solano, Emre, Duff etc).

Just a thought. 

I used to have a season ticket in the lower tiers of the Milburn stand when we were shite under Jim Smith, Ardiles and Co - have to say I much preferred the craic and banter with other fans around when we stood AND you felt (and probably were) much closer to the action.

I remember watching one match with an ageing Kevin Sheedy playing left wing, constantly getting beaten to the ball by their right back. Some fella next to me was harranging Sheedy from the first whistle of the second half right to the end of the game and, with about 3 minutes to go, Sheedy 'offered' him out. 'I'll feckin see ye outside yer fecking langer' - the Geordie didn't know where to put himself. Funny as owt.

You don't get that interaction with the players anymore. Although, if Stevie Carr fancies a go, I'll meet him wherever he wants!!!!!!!!! He'll just have to get down to his fighting weight first, so I'll not bother checking my phone for a while!

Anyway, back to the subject....................

Whilst I accept the safety argument regarding seating I think it would be nice to have one part of one stand which is 'standing only'.

It'll never happen though. Not in a million years.

On the positive side it will more than likely rule him out of any January move.

I doubt we would want to sell him (even though he's looked unhappy this season) but if Arsene and the rest of his 'froggy' chums come calling we might have been forced to flog him.

He won't be passing any medicals in Jan now.

In his absence, maybe we can change formation to 4-3-3 and play a narrow game whilst Duff is getting fit? It wouldn't be pretty but it might get us through some games with a point rather than nothing.

Play Sibbers up top (if fit) through the middle to hold the ball up and lay it off to martins on the right and rossi on the left?

What do you think?

Am i right in thinking that Carr has been out injured for almost two months now with a bruised toe. And we thought marcelino took the piss.

I'll bruise his other nine toes if he fancies 18 months out. Fat Wanker.

.com say a few games for Nobby and Emre and Sibi might feature on Weds, as mentioned above. I'll take those odds tbh

Me too. Shame for Emre when he's just started to hit a run of form since joining. Although, with the commitment he shows, we've got to expect him to pick up minor injuries throughout the season.

It would be a step back if (when fit again) Roeder chooses Parker/Carr over Emre & Solano who have made us look a far more creative outfit over the last few games, IMHO.

Wait and see what happens.

Any updates?

SSN reckon Emre might only be out for 2 matches. The presenter mentioned it whilst showing our goals, about an hour ago.

He also said Sib would be in contention for a place on Weds. No mention of Solano

Fergie is stepping down at the end of the season and Lippi is taking over.

I bet Carlos Quieroz (sp?) is well hacked off about that. I reckon he must have had designs on the post. Don't you think?

Cheers - can an admin change the title of the thread to 'Lippi to Man Utd?' or something then?

FIND OUT AFTER THE MAN U MATCH

Whats the point in posting this if you're not going to expand upon it?

United were also linked with Celtic striker Shaun Maloney over the weekend, and although they will have a high-powered delegation at Parkhead tonight - including Roeder and chairman Freddy Shepherd - for the Champions League game with Manchester United, I am told there is no specific player they are watching.

 

Good call. I hadn't thought of that.

 

Most reasonable explanation if Oliver's prediction was correct.

 

Cheers

 

 

Ok, stupid question cos I really can't think of the answer to this.....................

 

Why would a 'high powered' delegation travel all the way upto Glasgow to view the match if they have no intention of watching a player?

 

Surely they could sit on their fat arses (Aye, thats right Freddie) in front of the TV?

 

What benefit will they get from being there?

 

Probably there to meet up with Manchester United reps rather than Celtic reps, regarding Rossi.

Anyone think we should try and tempt Geremi as well for the right-back spot? He's getting a game now but once Ferreira's back he'll be back out of the side.

Great call. Seem to remember Geremi having a great season for Boro a few years ago. Would be a massive improvement on Carr.

Though, did he play in midfield for Boro? Can't remember now, but anything would be an improvement on the Fat Mong currently occupying our RB spot.

I'd go as far as £10m for the pair personnally. Would improve our back four no end.

26 year old Huntelaar?  The bloke aged several years in a space of minutes, amazing!

 

He'd be some signing, though.

 

Yes, but realistically no chance. Telling us we're interested in players we have no hope of signing ranks just behind telling us where we'd be in the league if we played ChampMan with Owen fit. Still, it fills the paper up nicely.

 

Christus lacrimosus :jesus:

Quoted for Truth!

Wish I was Editor at the Chronicle just for a day. I'd be in the office packing Olivers desk up and drafting his P45 before the tw*t had even woken up.

He's one lazy journo.

I wish! 

 

 

Double dutch blow for Roe

 

Nov 21 2006

 

 

 

 

By Alan Oliver, The Evening Chronicle

 

 

 

 

 

Newcastle United's plans to go Dutch in the January transfer widow have been thwarted because Ajax can pay their own way.

 

Glenn Roeder has targeted Ajax's 26-year-old striker Klaas Jan Huntelaar and left-back Urby Emanuelson, but has already been told from Amsterdam to back off.

 

Roeder is always reluctant to talk about any transfer targets, but he admitted today: "Like a lot of Premiership managers, Huntelaar and Emanuelson are two players I greatly admire, but Ajax are insisting they are not for sale."

 

While a lot of the talk was about fellow Dutch striker Dirk Kuyt in the summer, Roeder would loved to have brought the man called The Hunter to St James' Park - but after paying e9m for him, Ajax see him as part of their future.

 

 

Where United missed the boat was in February 2005 when Huntelaar played against them and scored for Heerenveen in a UEFA Cup match in the Dutch town.

 

 

United have already spotted the potential of the 20-year-old Emanuelson, but so too have Ajax and Holland after he was capped for the first time against the Republic of Ireland in August.

 

 

United know that their fans are expecting additions to their paper-thin and injury-hit squad, and Roeder insists: "We know what parts of our team needs strengthening and we will be acting accordingly."

 

 

United are desperate for a couple of strikers, while another central defender and a left-back would come in more than handy in January. The whole football world - including the agents - know that United are desperate for new players, and fans can expect all sorts of weird and not-so-wonderful names to be thrown at them in the next couple of months.

 

 

Even by United's standards the number of players they were linked with over the weekend was astonishing - but none of them will be finding a peg in the St James' Park dressing room.

 

 

United love Alan Smith's aggression, but he is not a natural goalscorer so you can rule him out.

 

 

Aston Villa midfielder Steve Davis was strongly linked with a move to United over the weekend, but Roeder is not interested.

 

 

The Magpies are well off in midfield, but if they do find they want to strengthen here they have a player in mind with a Premiership club - and it's not Davis.

 

 

As far as central defenders are concerned, Berne Young Boys' Ivory coast international Steve Gohouri, Leicester's Aussie Patrick Kisnorbo and Valencia's David Navarro were all said to be targets over the weekend - but none are.

 

 

Navarro has already got up United's nose by saying that he is going to turn down a move to St James' Park because he fears Newcastle will be relegated.

 

 

This prompted Roeder to say: "Before you can turn anybody down you have to be asked."

 

 

Roeder has distanced himself from reports linking Newcastle with a bid for former striker Lomana LuaLua, who is believed to be unhappy at Portsmouth.

 

 

United were also linked with Celtic striker Shaun Maloney over the weekend, and although they will have a high-powered delegation at Parkhead tonight - including Roeder and chairman Freddy Shepherd - for the Champions League game with Manchester United, I am told there is no specific player they are watching.

 

Ok, stupid question cos I really can't think of the answer to this.....................

Why would a 'high powered' delegation travel all the way upto Glasgow to view the match if they have no intention of watching a player?

Surely they could sit on their fat arses (Aye, thats right Freddie) in front of the TV?

What benefit will they get from being there?

Ok folks,

What are your fancies this weekend?

I'll be picking from this controversial little list;

Preston to beat Barnsley

Birmingham to turn Leeds over at Elland Road

Hull to turn QPR over at Loftus Road (possible 6 pointer already!!)

Carlisle at home to Brighton

Leyton Orient at home to Rotherham

I'll probably find another team and do two seperate trebles.

Theres some tight matches in that lot though so I might even go down the route of draw ht/win ft for my fancies and just bet some singles, using that approach. Haven't decided yet for sure though.

Anyway, your thoughts on this weekends games?

If he is a gold he will shine wherever he is. As a strike he should kick so many goal to prove he is gold and that is what he should offer us(after all we pay him salary).I think he did well last match. I hope we can see a star Martins in the matchs but not a rubbish Martins.

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