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No, you won't. Well, that's my opinion anyway, I thnk it is easy to overrate your squad when you're not assessing it objectively, but from what I've seen of you this season - which, admittedly isn't as much as you lot have - you've a lot of players who really aren't up to much. Even Given seems (by reading posts here) to have deteriorated, and he's been quality for donkeys. Dude ... still interested in Milner? Milner for Maloney swap deal?

Out of interest where are all the Milner should be on the right groupies? I actually think Milner being played on the right only further highlights how poor he is at crossing the ball. Milner really does stink. Strictly a backup player. You cannot lack pace AND be poor at crossing. Just not allowed. Please no more excuses for Owen. What kind of player is this? How can you not be able to do anything but finish? What does he do in training? Enough of the playofftheshoulder bollocks man, you ain't got the pace no more! Switch it up man! The irony is that Owen will never get the number of opportunities he needs in this team unless he is played upfront with Martins, who unsettles defences. At this point it is worth a go, even though it means we have two littleuns out there.

Our only hope right now is Zoggy on the left and Duff on the right at least we will have some pace on both wings and we might actually get crosses into the box AT THE RIGHT TIME! without dribbling back and forth for no reason in Milner style. I don't care what anyone says about Alan Smith either. He absolutely has to start the game as a striker at least he is mobile upfront. Viduka can come on when if we are in desperate need of a goal, at least the defenders he is facing will be a bit tired which should even things up a bit.

I'm so pissed right now ... I should calm down. Let me rephrase. If you put Kitson and Doyle into our team they would be more effective than Owen and Viduka. Unless you've got a midfield like Arsenal's, Liverpool's, Chelsea's or Man U's Owen and Viduka are absolutely worthless. So, either replace the strikers or probably more sensibly, fix the whole midfield apart from Duff who has looked good since he returned. The players we have right now just don't fit together. It really is disgusting to me. An absolutely disgusting mess of a team.

Dude come on ... It's because our players are awful. You can't let them off the hook so easily. It's Martins and Duff who are the only two players who might scare another teams defence at the moment. After that we have nothing. Todays premiership won't allow for a lack of athleticism and pace in attack like we have right now. Name one team who is having some success in the premiership right now who has players as slow and unathletic as we do! NONE! Our attacking players stink and thats a fact. No manager can work with this crap. No one. Even Readings Doyle and Kitson are better than Viduka and Owen. It's bloody embarrassing. Who would you rather have Reading's Hunt or Milner? If you say Milner you're kidding yourself.

I need to get more of my chest ... Milner is a young guy with a bit of ability but for us to be relying on him game in game out is criminal too. He just isn't the level of player that should be a mainstay in our first team! It's a joke it honestly is. He is sooooo limited it makes me weep.

The fact of the matter is that our players stink! Wake up and smell the coffee for goodness sake! I knew once Owen came on we would get worse, just like we did against Chelsea. Yes he is more likely to score if he gets a chance but ultimately Martins attributes create more chances for the team on the whole even if he is less clinical. For goodness sake Owen and Viduka upfront? ARE YOU FREAKIN KIDDIN' ME??? The slowest most undynamic pair of players int he premiership up against Micah Richards and Dunne? Forget about it. Until we revamp our striking force we will be bloody useless. OWEN OUT! VIDUKA OUT!

Definitely wasn't Bianchi. Don't know if there were any other Man City players around last night, because away teams do stay in the Malmaison too, so that could be a possibility. Was probably their new Mexican guy Castillo.

Oh dear ... well that was exciting while it lasted.

Close enough

Owen will look like he is walking in quicksand against Micah Richards. I think this is a game where we ought to play Martins up front. He scored a great goal up at City.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMiT0gXtHkrwA.BWjzbkF/SIG=1270l5oer/EXP=1199362932/**http%3A//www.fcbarcelonaweb.com/jugadors/ezquerro.jpg Ezquero to the Toon!

Amen brother, AMEN!

That thread was awful :lol: We still don't know who the hell the guy was. He was our best left back last season though! Even though he only played in one training session.

Nope, but who is that? http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTb_5tfXtHxe8ASAqjzbkF/SIG=12jh8eq7m/EXP=1199361773/**http%3A//www.marca.com/ficheros/marca/fotos05/gutierrez050809.jpg Gutierrez of Real Mallorca a.k.a Spiderman. He's the one who wears the spiderman mask when he scores a goal He was linked with Man City recently so I thought maybe he had stopped by at ours for a quick chat too.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMiVfentHJVkBISOjzbkF/SIG=13kk9q9gs/EXP=1199360991/**http%3A//external.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundodeporte/envivos/fichas/imagenes/04100/4125_140x170.jpg Is this the fella?

The Korean bloke? Maybe he speaks Spanish/Italian?

I think what he is trying to do is making us a counter attacking team, but we do not have the pace or directness in our midfield or attack to play this way at the moment. We need at least one player with these attributes to use as an outlet. Martins has the pace but isn't direct enough. For example Villa have Young and Agbonlahor who set up most of their attacks. Man City use Petrov a great deal in this respect. Portsmouth have the likes of Benjani and Utaka. At Bolton Sam had the likes of Diouf and Anelka. We currently do not have the personnel for this style of football. If we could just add the right kind of playeer or two with these attributes we ccould see a great deal of improvement. if he's trying to play counter attacking football why the hell did he buy Barton, Smith and Viduka these players plus Owen shouldn't be anywhere near the team if that's what we're trying to achieve I agree completely. I think it is safe to say that the summer transfer window was a bit of a disaster and I think a lot of it had to do with the change in ownership. Barton and Smith could actually work in such a system, in the same way Hamaan and Johnson do at City i.e. as the hard working central midfield paie, but where we failed miserably was adding pace and guile to the wings and attack. Viduka was a poor signing for an Allardyce set up.

I think what he is trying to do is making us a counter attacking team, but we do not have the pace or directness in our midfield or attack to play this way at the moment. We need at least one player with these attributes to use as an outlet. Martins has the pace but isn't direct enough. For example Villa have Young and Agbonlahor who set up most of their attacks. Man City use Petrov a great deal in this respect. Portsmouth have the likes of Benjani and Utaka. At Bolton Sam had the likes of Diouf and Anelka. We currently do not have the personnel for this style of football. If we could just add the right kind of playeer or two with these attributes we ccould see a great deal of improvement.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=JJAQ5VH5CW5QRQFIQMFCFF4AVCBQYIV0?xml=/sport/2008/01/02/sfnnew102.xml Man City do essentially play a 4-5-1 rather than a 4-3-3 in all honesty, and if they had Milner instead of Petrov and Barton instead of Elano would they really be that much better than we are at the moment? Okay they probably would be due to their defence ... but attacking wise? I don't want to knock our guys but we really do lack quality at the moment in our team and this is our main problem more than anything. With the return of Duff all we really need is a creative player through the middle and I think we would be much improved. An experienced left back would be nice too, to allow Zoggy to play further up the pitch at least occassionally. This transfer window should tell us a great deal about the direction we are going in as far as the backing and support that will be given to Sam.

MON said ages ago that once Davies got the shirt, he expected him to hold on to it. He was excellent on Saturday and good again today. I see him and Laursen in central defence now. Harsh on Mellberg, but we need a proper right back. I'm a fan of his, he has been with us for, what, six mostly s*** years, he's very popular, but I wouldn't blame him at all if he took up this offer from Juventus at the end of the season. Don't you think that if you got a right back that Laursen and Mellberg would be a phenomenal pairing though?

So have we signed anyone yet?

No one wrote him off iirc. I remember people being astonished at the price tag when it was rumoured that they spent £17 million on him but when that was revealed as being false, no one said much else. Quite a few people said he wasn't good enough coming from a weak Croatian league and that sort of thing, from what I remember anyway.

Yeah whats your point? My point is that people wrote Eduardo off but he has shown he has the quality to succeed here. Not saying he is better than Henry ... not yet anyway.

What are you trying to imply? That his 3 league goals so far this season suggest he is going to be a worthy replacement? No. That he is beginning to show that he will score a lot of goals in the league, and that no Arsenal fan is even thinking about Henry right now, due to Adebayor's emergence as well to be fair.