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1 minute ago, SteV said:

Well, Arsenal could go back to being 6th/7th, and Man City (or any other big club) could be the ones dominating the league and playing CL. 
 

Granted, it’s all very positive for Arsenal at present and there’s absolutely no chance of him leaving in the short term, but we’ve absolutely no idea how things will look in 5/10 years time. 
 

Mental to suggest any youngster is a lock in at any club for the rest of his career.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda ...

That team is on the up, and like I already said he's not some foreign kid like Clichy, Sagna, Nasri or Adebayor that all left to join Man City as soon as the going got tough. He's an Arsenal fan that wants to get them to the top.

Ah ... actually I've just realised why so many of you keep going on about this, it's the Arteta and Arsenal dislike coming through, and wishful thinking that they're going to lose their best players 

18 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

Regardless of whether they win the league this season, Arsenal will never be big enough to keep their star players.

This is an absolutely shocking post.

8 hours ago, Deuce said:

Looking forward to quoting this when he signs for City  

 

(I want to agree with you, mind)

What on Earth is he going to gain from going to Man City?!

He's a London boy that is at his boyhood club and is about to sing a £300,000 a week contract at 21 years of age, as part of a young core with a young manager that are primed to compete at the top in the years to come.

No chance he gives up the gravitas and status he has at Arsenal to join Man City man. It would be a crazy move.

7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

But early for that pronouncement like, he’s only just getting started and he’s really young. Anything could happen. 

Barring something disastrous happening at Arsenal I just can't see him ever leaving.

He couldn't be in a more ideal situation at the club he loves and came through. Him throwing away the opportunity to go down as one of the greatest players in that clubs history because some other Prem club has thrown more money at him would be a horrendous move on his part, and it would sever all his ties at Arsenal.

Not bad for a shit league 1 player that hides from the ball 

Already making some of you look really dumb! Someone must have showed him the horrid takes in this thread!

42 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

 

You'd assume he would be if Ekitike was.

We were linked with him even before he joined Reims, so it goes even further back than that.

30 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

 

Think we were linked with Cajuste a few years ago?

Yes, a fair bit. He'll be in Nickson's database I imagine.

8 hours ago, Ikon said:

 

 

Something that is equally embarrassing is the way you go hyperbole about next to nothing kind of things. Relentless.

You should see the posts I'm responding to.

No I'm not one of the people mentioning Osimhen, so I'm not 'Some of you ... '.

The idea is that unrealistic that even mentioning it is perplexing to me. And I say this as a Nigerian that would love nothing more than him joining the club.

Saka will never leave Arsenal for any other Premier League club.

I doubt he will ever leave Arsenal period. If he does it will be to a Barca or Real Madrid, still I don't even see that.

Going to be a club legend at Arsenal as part of that young core that are already looking like they will be competing on all fronts going forward.

The idea that we will poach him because of our financial muscle at some point is just fanciful stuff.

4 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said:

 

I remember a certain Almirón being derided and mocked, even by Jack Grealish.

 

Almirón has been superb this season.

 

As it's been said, unfashionable players can contribute more than big name stars. Fred and McTominay may be unfashionable, etc, but they both give their heart for the badge. Unlike Workd Cup winner and World class midfielder Paul Pogba who gave nothing and contributed zero.

 

No one would claim that Jordan Henderson was world class, but without him, Liverpool would not have won the trophies they have won under Klopp.

It's all relative to the style of football being played by the manager too, which is what most can't seem to understand.

ten Hag leans towards more of the Pep style of more intricate possession heavy football, and so the likes of McTominay and even Fred aren't going to be as good a fit longer term.

Howe seems to lean towards more of the Klopp approach with very intense pressing and dynamic transition play, and so players like McTominay and Fred are a better fit, the same way Henderson was for Klopp. Henderson would never have been the type of midfielder Pep would have gone for. Like you said though, he has ended up captaining that Liverpool side to both a Prem title and Champions League title under Klopp.

It's almost as though there are different ways to play the game, which make use of different types of players. But no ... ten Hag doesn't want him so he must be a shit cast off that is League 1 standard. Cringeworthy stuff.

8 minutes ago, Manxst said:

Agreed. But I think the general consensus is that our club should be looking at signing players to take us to the ‘next level’ rather than a ‘squad filler’ like McTominay seems to be. Especially for the price he’d undoubtedly cost from a current rival. 

Most fans have no idea of what player it takes to get to the 'next level', but my God the way they go on about it man.

Howe has already taken us up several levels with a squad that has no depth and has made use of a number of players that most were ridiculing and wanted shipped out.

At this point it's just embarrassing honestly. Yet again folks will just be made to look daft once next season rolls around.

16 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Bloody hell, that twitter post saying “don’t trust Howe and Tindall”. Makes you wonder why the fuck some people follow football 

Can you just imagine being Howe and taking over the club in the bottom three, and within a year having them in the best position to finish top 4 , and having got into a cup final, and you stumble on that abomination of a tweet.

Imagine transforming Joelinton and Almiron to the extent he has within a year and seeing that post by some brain dead fan that thinks he knows better about what player Howe should buy for his own team.

Don't know why fans like that don't just go and support Man City or Chelsea, all they long for are the kind of spending sprees those clubs go on. It's funny because Chelsea in January brought in Mudryk, Enzo, Madueke and Badiashile ... a good number of Football Manager favourites and are still complete shite. Mudryk and Madueke can't even get into the team.

Most football 'fans' are the absolute worst.

37 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Butt/Fletcher etc. had the luxury of playing with world class players beside them. Something to factor in when judging McTominay in that regard.

Not to mention they all played under a top manager too that played a style that suited their skillset.

1 minute ago, Ikon said:

 

Yeah. But when they signed Milner the rest of the team wasn’t as old as now I bet (average age) I see them going for high quality players now with plenty of years ahead of them. Not spending quite a bit of money on players that won’t bring the average age down.

 

 

 

I think they will sign both types as they will need a number of new central midfielders.

If Southampton go down I also don't think they will be asking for what that article claims they will.

Just now, Manxst said:

Me too. For the alleged price of a JWP, you could get a Milenkovic-Savic. I’m sure the club knows who is the more ‘complete’ midfielder. 

Another player we wouldn't have a chance of signing at this stage. 

Just google Milenkovic-Savic and have a look at the types of clubs he is typically linked with.

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

Now this would be a horrendous move. I admire his agent's optimism though

7 minutes ago, Ikon said:

Don’t see Liverpool going for JWP at all. If anything they will be looking to get the age down of their squad. 
 

Very unlikely!

 

 

 

Same age as Milner when they signed him. Similar profile too, as he has a similar engine and fitness.

Just now, Manxst said:

On the cheap? The article above says his price would be £40m+ after relegation. 

I doubt  that very much.

19 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Yeah, you're right.  You know what I've seen and what I've not seen - forgot about that.  Condescending load of shite mate.

I didn't address you specifically with that post.

I've heard these takes on Ward Prowse a fair bit, about how he is just a dead ball specialist.

When I watch the games I don't see that at all. In an even half decent team with a better role, ideally in a midfield three, it would be so much more clear that he's a very good player.

Someone is going to get a great deal there. It will probably be Liverpool, as he would be in line with the likes of Henderson, Gini and Milner, who were all really savvy signings for them that contributed massively to the trophies they've won under Klopp.

Won't be surprised if Liverpool pick him up on the cheap when Southampton go down.

Similar to when they signed Henderson and Wijnaldum. Could see him easily doing just as well as those two did for them.

Gini in our midfield under MClaren was usually invisible and only showed up when he was scoring. At Liverpool he was part of a midfield three with Henderson that was key to them winning the Prem and the Champions League.

4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I'm scratching my head at that one, Kaka.  His being English has nothing to do with it - he's not as good as Bellingham, Mount, Rice, Phillips, Maddison, Gallagher etc.  He's not as good as Willock.

 

I don't rate the bloke particularly highly, beyond his ability to take a decent FK.  Other opinions do exist though  

Joe Willock is not better than James Ward-Prowse. No chance. Neither is Gallagher to be honest, and I would maybe even argue Mount isn't.

3 minutes ago, McCormick said:

Stats-wise he’s the fittest player in the league. Most distance covered by any PL player for 3 seasons in a row now and has ridiculous passing and shooting ability. He’s as complete as midfielders get.

 

 

I think people just see Southampton struggling and see his freekicks on match of the day and so think that's all he does. They are not watching games outside of the top teams.

He's a quality player. Hope he gets a decent move because he definitely deserves to be able to really showcase his game in matches that more people actually watch.

6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Mediocre footballer with a decent dead ball ability.  Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole for anything more than 20m

Said it before and I'll say it again, you lot have some serious disdain for players from your own shores. It's extraordinary

Ward-Prowse has been held back by a poor Southampton team and the fact that they have mostly used him in a midfield two.

He's a good player as is, but in a midfield three with freedom to get forward more, and also being in a better team, he'll be very very good. Very underrated.