KaKa

4 minutes ago, oldtype said:

 

But I'm also entitled to react by pointing out that it's a dumb and misogynistic preference.

 

Hey, go for it. 

Some people are more prone to imagine the worst of other people, so I get it.

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

I don't really get that argument tbh. Pundits are there to make coherent points and offer insight into the game. An intelligent ex-pro who is female will always be more capable of doing that than some pisshead gobshite who happens to be male.

 

I mean as guys we all grow up watching the men's game, playing football against other guys, talking endlessly about football with other guys.

Maybe for some guys when they watch the punditry they just prefer to see the same because it's what they're are used to and that's it. It could be the level of banter that takes place in that kind of setup, the stories that are shared from the guys that are ex pros, which they find more compelling etc etc. Who knows?

I think reducing that to simply a hatred of women is really poor.

1 minute ago, oldtype said:

 

Put it this way, I don't prefer men's football - I prefer Premier League football. If a woman were physically capable of playing in the Premier League then I'd have just as much fun watching her as I do a male player. Possibly more, because I imagine she would have quite the inspiring story. There just hasn't been someone like that yet.

 

On the other hand, women are very much capable of commentating on the same level as men. They just haven't had the opportunity because we've been artificially keeping them out of the profession for ages.

Yeah, bit there's no women like that though. Seems to me saying I prefer the men's game for the reasons I gave, which are based on differences between the sexes would be labelled as misogyny.

Regarding the commentary, yeah you might be fine with it and think it's the same, but if some other person doesn't think it is quite the same, then it means they hate women?!

Think that's a really unfortunate way of looking at things.

3 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

I don’t consider myself an expert so I wouldn’t want to give a definitive answer but based on the parameters of the discussion so far I think if you’re not prejudiced purely based on sex that’s a more legitimate starting point.

Well those differences in the speed, athleticism and dynamism are essentially rooted in the differences between the sexes, no?

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

I said the same thing in my first post on here. I don't like listening to women commentators, the ones I've heard don't tend to convey the atmosphere of the game that well. I don't know if it's tone or what, but it doesn't work for me.

 

But when it comes to punditry, there's been some very good ones, at least compared to some of the male doylems we've had to hear talking absolute shit down the years.

So what if the way you feel about the commentators extends to the pundits as well for some guys?

Mabe they don't find it as convincing or relatable and so would not prefer it.

You guys genuinely think that then means they have a hatred and prejudice against women?

That's really fascinating.

1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said:

I’ve stated I have no preference whatsoever based on sex. I must have typed that phrase about 10 times now.

 

More misrepresentation of what I said here, it’s really disappointing. If I became aware that I was favouring anyone based on sex alone I’d try to address it.

Is preferring the men's game due to the speed, athleticism and dynamic play, a preference based on sex?

32 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

I really hope this becomes more of a thing with our players.

Gives me a good laugh everytime 

Longstaff is a natural successor to a lot of what Henderson offers.

Really pathetic still picking Henderson when he's no longer playing at the top level.

Southgate is picking based on personal relationships rather than footballing merit. 

Henderson and Maguire selections are pretty unacceptable.

1 hour ago, Slim said:

Stabbings incoming for the away leg.  Think might have to wear my france debuchy shirt ha

Really don't understand this sort of thing man. Just no need.

Like you've said when they are super aggressive to the fans that travel down there, then everyone will act surprised.

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I love that it seems to have been picked up by some of the other players, too.  Gordon did one right at the start of the game.  Great stuff

Yes! I noticed Burn do it once too 

That mental scream he does when he tackles/clears the ball out of play is so funny to me man 

11 minutes ago, 80 said:

In spite of last night, I don't think we can give to much credit to Eddie Howe for the performance.

 

You need to consider that the team won't really have adopted his style yet. We're only two years in and we'll still largely be piggybacking on Steve Bruce's vision.

43 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=354784.msg19108519#msg19108519

 

They're so bitter man 

 

Many pages of beatiful fume. I know people call Everton the scouse mackems but it's jarring how much RAWK is like RTG.

The bitchiness man. My goodness 

Hate how these so called 'big clubs' just think they're supposed to be the only ones that should always play in the Champions League.

Can't even handle missing out one year. Some idiot on there saying the Super League can't come quickly enough.

So many of these fans are just glory hunters. They don't really enjoy legitimate competition.

5 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

Just for clarity I have never played for Rangers' academy or broken my leg.

14 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

Who the fuck are you talking to like that?

Just now, joeyt said:

I think people associate him with the Bruce era and wanted him out.

 

I didn't realise he was Jason Tindall's assistant at Bournemouth

Ah, okay. Seems harsh.

Was brought in to help the big oaf, so wasn't really a Bruce guy.

Yeah, the link with Tindall was why he was kept on I believe.

2 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

Right wing funnily enough.

Ah, so you're just jealous of Murphy then? Pathetic!

1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

Was at Rangers' academy until I broke my leg buddy.

 

Playing what position?

Just now, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

Kaka, it's a 5 yard pass to the side. It's bog standard. I love Murphy, but I aint blowing smoke up his arse for being able to play that pass brother.

You've never kicked a ball have you?

38 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Would also add that last night must have been special for Graeme Jones.

 

I know for some reason quite a few on here don't like him but he's clearly an integral part of the coaching staff and he must have loved last night.

 

He was even singing along to Hey Jude during the lap at the end

Why don't people like Jones?

That stint he had when he first came in and Bruce was using his diamond formation kept us from being relegated.

Think he's a valuable piece of the staff. Has a lot of really good experience from his time with Martinez and Belgium too 

1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

Aye Murphy did it last night actually in our attacking third, passed it straight to them and they went up and countered.

Yeah, exactly.

Murphy typically messes that up, so it was nice to see him get that so right.

5 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

Kaka I appreciate your enthusiasm to give our players some lovin' but its a simple 5 yard pass to the side.

The pass allows Schar to hit the ball in stride perfectly.

Do you know how often players over hit simple passes like that or play that behind the player ... this is so disappointing from you.

Blocked.

9 hours ago, nemtizz said:

 

Amazing.

Can we please give Murphy some love for the setup?

Plays the ball perfectly out in front of Schar for him to strike it.

You can really see it in the replay from behind.

40 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Don't think his potential is being wasted. We saw his performance at the WC he can turn it on.

 

Quietly - the last 4 years are as long as Ronaldinho's peak. He just doesn't have a CL to show for it and nobody rates Ligue 1.

 

At this point he's pretty much just an international footballer. The PSG thing is a complete farce.

As good as he is when he turns it on for France, I can't help but wonder if he'd be even better if he was in a healthier club environment, where he was actually being pushed and challenged to be more.

39 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Have to say Mbappe was awful.

 

I honestly hate to be that guy. But his body language was so bad. Add to that no work rate. It's an ugly sight.

He's just being enabled at PSG and pretty much rules the roost, and so he isn't really being pushed or challenged by anyone there.

Not looking like we'll ever really get to see his full potential, because as good as he has been at times, the real excitement was what he could have ultimately become as he was still so young.

Oh well ...