nfrederi

Its the fault of the fans anyway that Roeders gone according to Gallacher interview on the Beeb. 30 something games and hes a f*cking expert rent-a-quote on all things Newcastle. 50,000 + most home league games and a big away following, 2nd richest club in England 7th richest in Europe or some such piss, 50 + years since last Domestic trophy 80 years since league championship but we are too F**king impatient for success. All I want is to win something, anything but the Intertoto, before I die is that too much to ask? >

I can't see how it's fair to let them do it this season. They should be docked them at the start of next year, surely? Otherwise there is no disadvantage whatsoever. With the precedent being set with the West Ham fine....no points deducted due to fact it would be the players and fans who unfairly suffer....can it be fair at all.

Played neither particularly bad nor particularly good ......Butt, Taylor and Salano stand outs for us. Rest blew hot and cold would have taken 4 points from last two games so cant complain. Milners cross/shot Salanos double clearance best moments of poor game.

Was waiting for FFS to send a runner to remind the manager we where actually going out on away goals but think he realised that when he saw there bench celebrating. Things needed changing as it wasnt working and to be honest i think he bottled making a difficult decision Butt and Emre have done ok in the Centre of midfield this season but would that would have meant subbing Scott Parker, who although he wasnt the worse player on the pitch ,Huntington was being skinned time after time to bring Emre on for Duff was a bad decision even though Duff lived up to his name. Plus as someone on commentary said we then lost all width. Was waiting for more substitions but what did he expect Nzogbia to do in four minutes, beggers belief.

The season we where relegated we had actually shown some ambition in the transfare market and brought in Bassett and Thorn from WImbledon, John Robertson from Hearts and had just finished about 8th in the league on paper had quite a decent team but a midget forward line and a manager, McFool who didnt know how to utilise them proparly. How familiar does that sound. I had high hopes for that season.....should have known better. Few highs like the 2-2 draw with Liverpool at SJP. Standing in the Gallowgate whilst it Pissed down all afternoon was dry from the lower chest down so many packed in there, Im sure Alan Hansen slipped to let Mira score at Gallowgate end then Frankie Pringle got his goal after ball whacked into the back of his head and went in, pure genius. Also Charlton game must have been the worst ive witnessed about 12,000 hardy souls in 0-2 defeat i think only match i left early as did most people. We needed a good start to 89 season and 5-2 win against Leeds was brilliant although dont think it was as clear cut as scoreline suggested think they where 2-1 up at half time and believe that it was Strachans debut and Batty a youngster had a good game. I think ive got all the old match programs in the loft somewhere gathering mould ill look them out. It does show how far we have come the last 16 years but to answer the old timers times and expectations change and rightly so.

Newcastle chairman Freddy Shepherd will not quit his post despite fans calling for him to go following the home defeat to Sheffield United. (Various) Magpies fans have slammed the club's decision to play the Blades on Saturday night - thereby taking the money for Sky television coverage instead of delaying the game by 24 hours because of their Uefa Cup match last Thursday. (The Sun) Selective reporting tis only a very small part of it :roll:

Obvious why he wanted Viduka as it seems he can only send his teams out to play one way and that way does not suit the players we have got....therefore cant see where the points are gonna come from between now and the transfare window it hopeless throwing crosses into the strikers weve got. If there is any truth in Sven rumours would be best getting him now i think as I cant see how GRs gonna change things round. The table doesnt lie and with Man City and then Arsenal away as the next two away games cant see the point in persisting with him for another two games. We are not too good to go down just ask Leeds and Nottm Forest fans.

I might have a bash HTL "Do you think they had to give £200m to the managers to buy players." Well, as that money was generated by the club, primarily through the fans (via tickets, TV subscriptions, merchandise et al) then the options were to cream that cash off, accumulate it in the bank or spend it on the club - either players or infrastructure. So in a sense YES, they were obliged to spend that money on players, pay off the debt on the stadium and develop training and corporate factilities. Are you suggesting that as shareholders they should simply pocket all profits (as has been suggested was done in the old days?) "How exactly does that stop Newcastle supporters appearing as wankers to outsiders by not being happy with a Board that funds it's managers to that extent?" Only the ignorant would suggest we are angry with Freddy for spending so heavily on players - we are angry that despite this investment we are still failing to reach achievable goals. We have seen a succession of managers who have failed to bring success - the media and outsiders would probably latch onto this fact as a flaw in our supporters, but those campaigning for Shepherd's removal feel that the malaise runs deeper than flawed players and managers, that something deeper is holding us back, and large sections of the Newcastle support group feel that "something" is the board, embodied by Mr. Fred Shepherd Esq Good answer really. However, taking the first paragraph. I don't think the Board is obliged to spend anything like the amount they have done on players. It hasn't worked out overall, but they have funded the managers to a level that they hoped would allow the club to compete near the top. They definitely did that because we finished 4th, 3rd and 5th under Robson. Having then given Souness £50m to improve on a team that finished 5th I don't think they can be accused of trying to compete at a lower level. They could have opted years ago to try to operate at a lower level, therefore making less transfer funds available to managers. That's all I'm saying. I understand the second paragraph and it's written from the point of view of a Newcastle supporter of course, but put yourself in the position of an outsider who doesn't feel the frustration. They won't know exact figures but they will be aware that Newcastle have been big spenders for years. The majority of the country see managers buying players, not Chairmen so will see a club that has a Board that fiair enough have appointed managers who haven't worked out but still a Board that backs the managers with cash. Mny clubs don't do that anywhere near as well as ours. This actually is a flaw in some supporters in my opinion. Look at the list of players signed by Dalglish. Some were good but he wasted a good deal of money, similarly with the others. Did Fred buy Maric, Marcelino for example, or was that Gullit? The list goes on. The attitude of blaming the Board for failed signings ( and that's whata it is ) does the club no credit, a bit like Fred calling Geordie women dogs. Living and working on the west coast of Scotland the view of the majority of people up here on the Newcastle fans is amazement that we get so big a crowd turning up every home game considering that our last domestic success was half a century ago. Most understand the fans frustration as the treatment of SBR and the Souness appointment was a disaster and Roeder looks like going the same way. As for the board backing their managers with cash I think its understood that Freddy Shepard appointed them to waste that money so the board getting it in the neck is not looked upon as anything other than justified and I think that this would be the same in any line of business if you took the second best brand and succeeded in screwing it up no matter how much money was spent in the process. I'd be willing to give Sven a shot if he where to be appointed as it would seem Freddy got it right with his 3rd appointment with Bobby maybe theres a pattern emerging?