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Dont really think Redknapp would get 100% support of fans would be a case of here we go again. Think it also mentioned in telegraph that Mort sacked him because he would never have full backing of fans Ashley decided to sack Allardyce because he has given up hope that the former Bolton manager could ever win over the club's supporters with whom Ashley has routinely stood in his replica shirt during Newcastle's away games this season, including the 1-0 defeat at Wigan

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=VKBOVDXRYX4JLQFIQMFSFFOAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/sport/2008/01/10/sfnfro110.xml Harry?

x months ago it was "Lennon so much better than Milner". Yeah Lennon is also better than Milner. Do you think a winger will resolve all our problems? There are a million things wrong at the minute and dreaming about wingers who we have no chance of signing is the least of m worries. There aren't a million things wrong at all. We had a very good first half but the second goal killed it. Two good performces on average against 2 top 4 sides. Yep gotta agree very good first half but after they scored sat back to hit us on the break which they did...we had problems creating anything against them after this whether emre would have made a difference if he was on earlier i dont know but we missed duff after he went off Charlie kinda disappeared. When you consider the Chelsea offside goal not many decisions went our way tonight either.

Oh dear You have to laugh. Horses head in his bed & offers he cant refuse ....is Sir Bob up to that kind of thing

Dont expect a lot this lifetime.........never mind maybe next time (making a late challenge for pessimistic b@@*@rd of the year!!

Would make better sense to wait and see what the next four games bring us, Brum, Fulham, Derby and Wigan are all winnable though think that if performances are any thing like the Liverpool game hes gonna be in big trouble. Personally think its the press as usual putting 2 and 2 together and coming to six, i dont think AS is ready or willing for management just yet.

Yes i thought that but maybe being a bit diplomatic trying not to heap any more pressure on BS

Really dont know any more, trying to keep the faith but cant see many positives at the moment One point from twelve likely to be from 18 by the time we play a run of winnable fixtures, on paper at any rate , home to brum after which we have 2 away games against Fulham and Wigan and another home tie vs Derby sandwiched between them. How many points do you reckon we will pick up from these games before we face Chelsea, Man City and Man Utd. Bearing in mind we where the home team today i don't think that we even won a corner never mind had a shot at goal. Sams got to sort out formations, tactics, playing players out of position and his lack of motivation that we can actually win a game otherwise he will be gone before New Years day in my opinion. These are the things that have got the crowd on his back as well as inane substitutions and dont think Mort and Ash will put up with it unless there are dramatic improvements after the Arsenal game and it could be a case if we dont get maximum points from the home games and at least a point from one of the away games he will be gone. Who could we realistically get in that would be any better than Sam i dont know either .........just pretty bloody despondant at the moment.

Would like to start a thread on BSs sanity some of his decisions have been baffling of late but todays substitutions are the stuff of insanity to me

may as well give seven bellies a game as well bit of movement and pace there

Just seen Mike ashley texting someone on his phone?

All in all a easy 3 points for Liverpool they have not had to break into a sweat.........have we won a corner yet?

unfortunately only a percentage of your £21 will be profit ........but never fear when i bought my £9.99 umbros the assistant asked if they could owe me the penny and as she couldn't specify when the company could pay me back i agreed to waive it so long as it was added to the transfer kitty

What about the guy Hunt was around late 80s early 90s. Think he was employed as computer geek when we plucked him from non league ..........lives in jungle in Belize last i heard

Not quite the same sounds like the bridge is being decorated for the derby and when all said and done its a bridge across the Tyne. Dont know what the nocturne project is but sounds rather resident evilish to me

Finding themselves in same situation as we where when we sacked SBR (a little later in the season but not much) unless you have someone lined up its hard to attract a quality manager. Gartside will also be finding himself between a rock and a hard place due to all he had to say when Sam came here........does he try to poach a under contract manager from another club after all he said. Maybe expected too much to soon from Little Sam, who after all was Allardyces choice of successor, was he made to try and change to quickly the style of play which had served them well under Sam. Another name ive heard mentioned is Peter Reid if Players where not happy with Sammy Lee hardly going to fill them with excitement that one

Not done much wrong so far. There is a lot of mischief in the press as i think he is generally disliked because hes a bit unconventional and maybe eccentric. Dont think hes bought us to sell us on at a small profit but seems to be genuine in wanting to be a fan and have a bit of fun with his dosh. There is a lot of new cash in the premiership and only so many trophies to be won but I believe the appointment of Big Sam will prove to be an astute move by the previous board and that he will repair the damage done during the reign of Souness and Roeder. Next summer will be interesting not only for ourselves but do the likes of West Ham, Man City etc keep spending big.........will Man Utd and Chelsea have a change of management. There are a lot of team wanting to break into the Champions League which can only be good for competition in the Premiership but will take us time and shouldnt look to quick fixes. Just hope if England come calling for Sam in the summer he tells them to do one.

Agreed, Ireland would be f***** for one. Not fair if a team has no worthwhile national league that they should be forced to bring lesser players. This would all just play into the hands of the big nations, which goes against what you're saying about trying to stop the superpowers always winning. Short-term yes, but long-term it may actually force nations to start developing their own game from the bottom up, their leagues and for homegrown players to play their football "at home". The globalisation of the sport is ruining the game for smaller nations whose best players as soon as they show even a modicum of talent are leaving to play in other countries which has a massive and underestimated negative effect on their own footballing culture. The world game is very much like our own Premiership, dominated by the big leagues with all the talent floating at the top, the rest becoming bottom feeders fighting over the scraps. As a result competition is almost non existent. The biggest example of this is Scotland, for years their best players have played in England which helped their national team no end, true, however every fabric of Scottish football with every departure slowly but surely loosened, thus wrecking their own competitions to such an extent it has affected player development to the point where the national team manager is checking out the family tree of players like Nigel Quashie whose roots are Ghanaian, just to put a competitive team together. Competitions like the World Cup were designed so players could represent their country and the game in their country, to promote the game in their own country, over the years that has changed however. Most of the French football team are not representing their own game, but ones in England, Spain, Italy etc. for example. Perhaps forcing such a policy would be the wrong way to go... OK, make it a voluntary option then and reward those that sign up with funding to help the game in THEIR OWN country, to improve facilities and such. The game is in danger of falling in on itself as the foundations are very weak and the global sport has a duty to first protect the interests of every nation and not itself, or rather the bigger nations, and that isn't happening. The result. Go to any country outside of the big leagues and the standard of football is appalling. The Dutch who produce fantastic players are going to become the next Scotland, mark my words. Years of losing their better players will catch up with them and bite them on the arse big time, regardless of how successful they are at producing players. Ironically all this will impact nations most at international level, as Scotland have found out. In short in order to protect international interests, you have to first protect domestic ones as the two go hand in hand, if one suffers, so will the other. Nations like Africa will never fulfil their potential because all their best players will leave to play outside of Africa. Short term their national teams will do well because their players are learning a new game and using that experience to good effect, but they aren't taking it back home with them for the next generation so ultimately their national teams will suffer. Cameroon showed the way in 90 with their team of unknowns - but have taken a turn for the worse since as all their best players were snapped up by clubs from the big nations. It has happened to Nigeria too and will happen to the likes of Ghana, Ivory Coast et al. Think the problem with Scotland has been the fact of too many poor Bosmans stifling home grown talent which has led to the inability to develop players who are good enough these days to compete in the premiership and at international level. May be an idea that for european competitions, league games etc to have a squad of players has to be registered similar to the 22 players per squad at international competitions but must include a proportion of players who are home grown ie developed in the country to which the club belongs.

Yeh was thinking same way ....at least he put the effort in, it will be interesting to see who will come in for him...Portsmouth interested?

Honestly dont think Pearson will be here much longer so hopefully will not matter too much.

Which is why Sam kicked up such a fuss about appointing an unqualified Roeder. Think it was nothing to do with us that Sam left Bolton we have been our worse run of poor results for 50 years i think. Saturday was the straw which broke the camels back

Personally think it all started to go wrong during the transfer window last summer , after that window slammed shut the way this season has gone has been no real surprise to most people i think.

James the title of the audio thread is " Newcastle fans want instant success" and after listening to the clip again I havent changed my opinion that he is laying the blame for Roeders demise on the unfair expectations of Fans, whether or not he qualified that with the statement that we have been starved of success for so long is immaterial to me. He is not addressing the problem which is the last two managerial appointments have been a disaster which a lot of people saw coming. Yes I do get mad when someone is portrayed as a person with a intimate knowledge of the club when his sum total is something like 36 games 4 goals at the arse end of his career who claims that the fans after waiting more than 50 years for a domestic trophy are impatient. It was a rant which i got off my chest. As for the good players he got into the club last summer, Martins has potential, Duff is a winger who we did not need, Siberski a honest journeyman and Bernard what more can I add bar the fact the last transfer window was an opportunity to bring players in not get his hands tied with injuries. Oh I also forgot the Man Utd reserve we got on loan. If players where not playing for him it would suggest to me that he had lost the dressing room as well as the fans keeping him on would have been rank stupidity, better to part ways now and get a manager in who will have a full preseason with the players and a full transfer window to bring in players that he wants. I do agree that it will take a few season to get back on track but in my opinion there was no evidence that Roeder could do that. If he was here for a full term next season I believe we would be at the very least facing a relegation battle and if we went down it would literally be a total disaster for the club and a finacial situation similar to Leeds as most of our debt is guaranteed against season ticket sales and the loss of the Premiership money would prob send us into meltdown. You may be able to shrug that off and support some other soccer team but over here we can not. As for the rest of your post i really do think its a case that you do not understand what supporting a football club means to people over this side of the pond and though i dont agree with Bill Shankley that football is more important than life or death its much more important than mere entertainment. As I say i was angry after listening to Gallagher but you could say that posting it on here is my anger therapy

The thing is the last two managerial appointments have been car crashes waiting to happen plus what happened before that with SBR being sacked 6 games into the season cannot, however much the chairman wishes to portray it so be blamed on the fans. The fans didnt go out and put on the god awful performances that we have witnessed from the players and i would hope that quite a few of 'em will follow Roeder and not pull on the black and white again. I could name names but. like them, i just cant be bothered. I dont normally post on the boards as I dont get to the games nowadays but what I have witnessed on Sopcast and T.V this season has been pretty abysmal stuff but even after getting hammered 5-1 at home against a championship side i think the fans where plenty patient. Dont think many managers would have survived that on top of everything else. Ive been at St James during the seventies and eighties and ok we where much worse than now but since the Nineties the ante has been raised considerably and is it too much to expect that we built on Keegans achievements. Since returning the top flight we have become a big club in everything but winning trophies. Freddie Shepard has got to get it right this time and if he does the fans will back the manager but we want to see the club being taken in the right direction. Im sure most are realistic enough to know that if we appoint Big Sam or Sven for instance that we are not going to win the league or Champions League within a few seasons but we expect to compete if not with the Man Us, Chelseas and Liverpools at least with Spurs, Reading, Bolton etc. I realise the bias of where this report came from and the joker making the comments but just boiled my p**s and needed to get it off my chest this is all we are going to hear till we make an appointment what a poison chalice this job is and how impatient the fans are. Dont think we are.....just want to see some progress. Rant over (agian)

Its the fault of the fans anyway that Roeders gone according to Gallacher interview on the Beeb. 30 something games and hes a f*cking expert rent-a-quote on all things Newcastle. 50,000 + most home league games and a big away following, 2nd richest club in England 7th richest in Europe or some such piss, 50 + years since last Domestic trophy 80 years since league championship but we are too F**king impatient for success. All I want is to win something, anything but the Intertoto, before I die is that too much to ask? >