Ronaldo

And completely wrote them off, don't forget.

Bernard was basically forced out. Nobody turned his head. I don't think we offered Saha a contract either.

Nice try.

Tiote's got a bit of work to do before he's worthy of a place over Speed or Lee.

The game is basically immaterial to the argument. That was my point.

Since he scored twice past Leeds in the Carling Cup.

And stupid pricks like Henry Winter want him back in the England team.

I was merely pointing out that as encouraging as his display was, there's really nothing we can take from it that could defend destroying a partnership that has won us games. Look at the context next time, Madras.

I would be surprised it Tooj hasn't already set off to Yorkies house with a machete. I always thought Yorkie lived in a commune.

Good to see everyone going with Pedro, except Yorkie.

Oh, I see. You assumed that I've based my opinion on what I haven't seen of him. I'm done arguing with fanboys.

What a load of garbage. Such a mackem anti-NUFC s*** Well, no, it's actually a fact. Who would you be supporting right now if Hatem had signed for the mackems, eh? Such a whore. The penalty is a fact yes but it's "his most important contribution" for RDT posters. Hatem hadn't signed for the mackems, so you question is pointless as usual and he didn't choose Newcastle by accident. The subject here isn't my person neither, but the load of s*** you're capable of when talking about this player. It clearly was his most important contribution, you fairy. He played well but that's the only action that directly impacted the scoreline. By all means attack my opinions, although it's becoming very tedious to say the least. Quite laughable that you (and countless other minions) come on here looking for an argument with those of us who pay your fantasy man's salary. That it offends you so deeply that I want him to play RW says everything that needs to be said about you as a person - if joining this forum simply because of one player didn't already. Nothing offends me young boy and absolutely not the fact you want him to play RW. Was just pointing out your big "expertise" about him ("a player who's played his best football out wide") and if you had a minimum of "savoir vivre" (and brain) you would have welcome people like me and the minions who are able to inform you about a player you know nothing about, instead of telling them everyday that they're strangers and therefor without valid arguments to oppose to yours, even if yours are absolutely s*** What a beautiful mentality. We played him out wide to good effect before his injury and I also saw this for Marseille on a few occasions. That's the extent of my knowledge and I've never implied otherwise. It's my opinion, that in English football, he's most suited to a free-role out wide. This is also based on what I've seen this season. I welcome opinions when they're objective, lucid and without bias. Yours are none of these things. You also seem unable to accept that the vast majority of us just want NUFC to win games and Ben Arfa's personal development must be achieved secondary to this. We're not a circus for him to perform tricks; we're a proud football club that will embrace a highly talented and enigmatic footballer such as Hatem should he contribute to our cause. Oh, and stop the French. You've been told before. 1- He's very good as a winger but it's not correct to say that his best football had always been out wide. It would have been an "opinion" if you had seen him play off the striker at Lyon in 2007-2008 and the first months of his first season at Marseille with Gerets. You're giving an "opinion" on a matter, setting aside a lot of elements you ignore. It's not an opinion. it's just pretentiousness. 2- You're not capable to quote just one opinion about him which was "biaised" and I never said that Ben Arfa was above the club. You're talking to yourself, ô self-centered young Ronaldo. 3- savoir-vivre is a very sophisticated english word. You've followed him here. That's pretty much the definition of bias satisfied, without each and every single one of your posts being about him and why our waters should part for the lad. It's 'pretentiousness' that I give an opinion based on what I've personally seen? Aye, right. p*ss off.

Aye. I'm sure Lovenkrands and Ranger will be very important against Chelsea.

Carroll deserves to be on the bench before Owen, like.

What a load of garbage. Such a mackem anti-NUFC s*** Well, no, it's actually a fact. Who would you be supporting right now if Hatem had signed for the mackems, eh? Such a whore. The penalty is a fact yes but it's "his most important contribution" for RDT posters. Hatem hadn't signed for the mackems, so you question is pointless as usual and he didn't choose Newcastle by accident. The subject here isn't my person neither, but the load of s*** you're capable of when talking about this player. It clearly was his most important contribution, you fairy. He played well but that's the only action that directly impacted the scoreline. By all means attack my opinions, although it's becoming very tedious to say the least. Quite laughable that you (and countless other minions) come on here looking for an argument with those of us who pay your fantasy man's salary. That it offends you so deeply that I want him to play RW says everything that needs to be said about you as a person - if joining this forum simply because of one player didn't already. Nothing offends me young boy and absolutely not the fact you want him to play RW. Was just pointing out your big "expertise" about him ("a player who's played his best football out wide") and if you had a minimum of "savoir vivre" (and brain) you would have welcome people like me and the minions who are able to inform you about a player you know nothing about, instead of telling them everyday that they're strangers and therefor without valid arguments to oppose to yours, even if yours are absolutely s*** What a beautiful mentality. We played him out wide to good effect before his injury and I also saw this for Marseille on a few occasions. That's the extent of my knowledge and I've never implied otherwise. It's my opinion, that in English football, he's most suited to a free-role out wide. This is also based on what I've seen this season. I welcome opinions when they're objective, lucid and without bias. Yours are none of these things. You also seem unable to accept that the vast majority of us just want NUFC to win games and Ben Arfa's personal development must be achieved secondary to this. We're not a circus for him to perform tricks; we're a proud football club that will embrace a highly talented and enigmatic footballer such as Hatem should he contribute to our cause. Oh, and stop the French. You've been told before.

What a load of garbage. Such a mackem anti-NUFC s*** Well, no, it's actually a fact. Who would you be supporting right now if Hatem had signed for the mackems, eh? Such a whore. The penalty is a fact yes but it's "his most important contribution" for RDT posters. Hatem hadn't signed for the mackems, so you question is pointless as usual and he didn't choose Newcastle by accident. The subject here isn't my person neither, but the load of s*** you're capable of when talking about this player. It clearly was his most important contribution, you fairy. He played well but that's the only action that directly impacted the scoreline. By all means attack my opinions, although it's becoming very tedious to say the least. Quite laughable that you (and countless other minions) come on here looking for an argument with those of us who pay your fantasy man's salary. That it offends you so deeply that I want him to play RW says everything that needs to be said about you as a person - if joining this forum simply because of one player didn't already.

I'm a Ben Arfa fanboy. I think he's a glorious player who has the ability that so few in this world possess. I love his vision, his style of place and I am in constant awe of his dribbling ability. I think we somehow for some weird reason lucked into signing him and we should build our whole team around him. We've done well this season so far but I don't think that iteration of the team was good enough to challenge for fourth, which is where I feel we really belong, and where Ben Arfa can take us. I think this discussion about his position on the pitch would be entirely without merit if he didn't get injured. The only important factor now is whether he will recover his ability. If he does, there is no discussion. You build the team around him. You tell him to find space, tell other players to pass to him and then just let him roam without needing to defend. He's a lesser version of Messi but I think we should let him roam free like Messi does. He's the best player we have, and the best attacking player we have by a million miles. I don't disagree.

Routledge did exactly the same to Enrique. His pace is devestating - with and without the ball.

Jonas will spend 90% of the game in his own half protecting the interbred behind him.

That's basically the extent of it. Had a mate who was in there, text me at 11ish to tell me Pards was there with 2 fellas and a lass and looked completely wasted. Was led out by security less than an hour later.

Ivanovic and Ashley Cole are good players. Terry and Luiz have often looked pretty poor as a combination.

He has his moments, like. I'd love to have seen the state he was in after the Sunderland game when he was asked to leave Florita's.

It was a decent strike when he had a lot of space. His shooting is OK. Basically what you'd expect from any PL footballer.

We should be looking to put a couple past them, that's for sure.

It's the centre of defence that's vulnerable for Chelsea, not the full-backs.