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Man U have only taken 4 points from those games so far 5 points matches what Man City took. Chelsea took 1 point from those 3 games.

Ba? You don't really appear to be up to date with goings on at the club. Ba left halfway through the season and we strengthened the squad during that period with 5 new players. You can say that we strengthened once the likes of Chelsea are pursuing Gouffran.

Ba?

I think it's informative to compare this season with the one following promotion, rather than last season's expectation stripping run. Think that's a more realistic view of progress. With a game left we could still get to within 2 points of that year's points tally (46). We only won 6 home games that year but we've won 9 this season. We scored a paltry 15 goals on the road that season losing 9 games...compared to the 10 we lost this year with our awful away form. That season didn't see calls for Hughton's head...or for Pardew's. He's been the victim of his own success. In the meantime we've sold our best striker each season and continue to run a transfer profit for the period. we played 4 cup games that year compared with 16 this year. Ashley doesn't care about performances, he cares about premier league status. For all the people that want Martinez...Wigan are going to be relegated. Ashley has no interest in seeing an entertaining relegation.

In less than a year and a half Graeme Souness spent £50m taking us from a team that finished top 5 3 years on the bounce to a team that finished lower than we currently sit. In a little over 2 years Pardew's taken a newly promoted team to the Europa league quarter finals on about half as much money. ...but you hate the latter more? He took over a team in mid-table. 13th...where we are now. So then, if Hughton got sack for being in 13th so shouldn't Pardew? No. I was aghast that Hughton was sacked. As were the majority of Newcastle fans. Entirely pointless exercise to replace one mediocre man on a limited budget with another. Only reason it was done with Hughton was that he was coming up to a contract renewal and was entitled to ask for double the wage after the job he'd done. Pardew was cheaper.

In less than a year and a half Graeme Souness spent £50m taking us from a team that finished top 5 3 years on the bounce to a team that finished lower than we currently sit. In a little over 2 years Pardew's taken a newly promoted team to the Europa league quarter finals on about half as much money. ...but you hate the latter more? He took over a team in mid-table. 13th...where we are now.

In less than a year and a half Graeme Souness spent £50m taking us from a team that finished top 5 3 years on the bounce to a team that finished lower than we currently sit. In a little over 2 years Pardew's taken a newly promoted team to the Europa league quarter finals on about half as much money. ...but you hate the latter more?

Exactly. If only we'd spent it in the summer, eh. Could have been another 6 or 7 points better off sitting pretty in 8th.

For someone who likes to criticise Ashley so much, he's doing a cracking job of lowering your expectations. Exactly. I blame Ashley. If Ashley appoints Benitez and gives him some money, I'll be delighted....I'll also get me arse out in Fenwicks window.

We've lost our last 2 home games to an aggregate of 9-0. It'll probably look a lot worse after the Arsenal game anarl Overall though, he turned around the REALLY poor mid-season form.

The time for protest was late December/early January, but even then after an awful run, there was little opposition to Pardew. Results haven't been too bad since then.

You missed Laudrup laying the smack down on Pardew's Europa League excuse on MOTD Woo what he say ? 'It's not squad size it's attitude and mentality. My Getafe team played 58 games with a squad of similar size to Swansea' Haha, amazing people still fall for Pardew's bullshit mind. A positive manager gets more from a team than a negative one, who knew

Aye, and Benitez has been complaining about tiredness for months. January 3rd January 27th Mid Feb March April Sorry I thought we were talking about performances and results. They're third and have played in two semi finals with one still to come ffs. And spent half a billion? Sorry, again you're talking about something completely different to me. I thought we were discussing fatigue. Why are their players able to play fifty games and perform while ours can't manage thirty without apparently being completely knackered? Are you claiming they have more stamina depending on how much they cost? No, as I said Benitez was complaining about tiredness 3 months ago when there players hadn't even played 30 games. Their players are able to challenge in 4 competitions and be 3rd because they're better players. We have players that could challenge mid-table with the fatigue that comes from this many games. A broken back, dislocated shoulder or anterior cruciate and the like that have seen us without players long term aren't really brought on by tiredness though.

Aye, and Benitez has been complaining about tiredness for months. January 3rd January 27th Mid Feb March April Sorry I thought we were talking about performances and results. They're third and have played in two semi finals with one still to come ffs. And spent half a billion?

Aye, and Benitez has been complaining about tiredness for months. January 3rd January 27th Mid Feb March April

Seriously? if the players are unfit then there is clearly a problem with how train and that is down to the manager. It's not a coincidence we have so many hamstring injuries and other pulls, you don't get those through being unlucky you get that by poor preparation. There is nothing magic about it, why do you think the big clubs get few injuries that are related to hamstrings and the like? Because they prepare properly, if these consistent hamstring injuries are anything to go by we obviously don't. We hardly had a player out all last season. Do you think Pardew has made a change to the fitness regime that has led to a worsening of the situation? I tend to think it's more to do with the fact we played our 50th game of the season over the weekend but we only played 43 in the whole of last season. Put it this way, since the transfer window closed, which losses are we stringing together to say it's sack worthy? The Mackems - definitely. Wigan and Swansea otherwise? Both lost in the dying minutes? I'm stringing together 34 performances and saying they're sack worthy. Then you aren't being fair. The real disgruntlement started before the transfer window opened. We lost 10 league games out of 13. If he was going to be sacked, the end of that run would have been a worthy time. But he hadn't been backed in the market then. Since he has been we have only lost 5 games from 11. We've won just as many.

It doesn't make any sense to level that criticism at Pardew. Are you saying he is coaching them to hit less long balls, but to not look where they're hitting the ball when they do use it? From my point of view when i watch Man Utd etc, they use passes that would be classed as long to switch play. It's a pass not as we play them, bopped up to Cisse or Sissoko to win in the air. That's how i see the difference, ours are hit without any real hope, better sides passes are to a players feet. So i'm saying Pardew deserves criticism for surrendering possession with pointless punts forward. There's nothing wrong with a long pass at all, it's just ours aren't passes. But that's down to the ability of players. You can't sack a manager because his players aren't as good as Man U's man.

He has done, but I think there's evidence of him looking to sort that out too. Cabaye was still very deep against the mackems...but that was to accommodate a very attacking set up otherwise with Marveaux and Gouffran and Sissoko supporting the striker. The fact half of those players never showed up was disappointing like.

Seriously? if the players are unfit then there is clearly a problem with how train and that is down to the manager. It's not a coincidence we have so many hamstring injuries and other pulls, you don't get those through being unlucky you get that by poor preparation. There is nothing magic about it, why do you think the big clubs get few injuries that are related to hamstrings and the like? Because they prepare properly, if these consistent hamstring injuries are anything to go by we obviously don't. We hardly had a player out all last season. Do you think Pardew has made a change to the fitness regime that has led to a worsening of the situation? I tend to think it's more to do with the fact we played our 50th game of the season over the weekend but we only played 43 in the whole of last season. Put it this way, since the transfer window closed, which losses are we stringing together to say it's sack worthy? The Mackems - definitely. Wigan and Swansea otherwise? Both lost in the dying minutes?

You don't think Pardew could have been getting the best out of the players he had at his disposal? I think in doing that he bought himself the opportunity to see if he can do it with the better players we bought in January. Once they're up to the pace of the game and understanding starts to build I like to think performances will come.

That post is spot on man. Did you gauge opinion during the first half? Everyone was saying "more of this please". We created several chances to score and it was the players to blame for not putting them away, not Pardew. Even if the players are getting tired and desperate.....wouldn't it be down to the manager to make sure that doesn't happen? He should be in the lab working on an elixr.

Confused, thought you were saying we have played good football up to the opposition box, but resort to lobbing it in. There's teams with target men, but Cisse isn't that. There's teams with goalscoring midfielders that like to make an off the ball run into the box, but we don't seem to have that, we have jinxy midfielders like Ben Arfa and Marveaux who prefer to supply or dribble into the box themselves. I think we need a couple of strikers making runs off each other to make space for through balls, our lone fella gets easily marked out of the game....or has to rely on making a run from deep...and more often than not, getting called offside. All that said like, when we had Ba we never played two up top. Pardew would insist on hoying Cisse on the right.

You mean... http://nufc-ashlies.blogspot.co.uk/ Not for a couple of years. I did feel the urge to when I found out that Ashley's taking £29m out of the club last season and this...but I resisted.

That post is spot on man. Did you gauge opinion during the first half? Everyone was saying "more of this please". We created several chances to score and it was the players to blame for not putting them away, not Pardew.

Was a regular years back. Just when the mood strikes these days. Usually to defend Pardew against unfair criticism or criticise Ashley when he's being praised. Who are you like?