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Did I just hear Tydesley call one of Iran's players Euthanasia? Dozing on the sofa and could've sworn I heard it [emoji15]

Just assumption that you seemed to want me to erroneously name the likes of Ozil as non Germans and look a bit of a Jermaine Beckford/young Andy Cole type dick. Apologies if you just wanted to see me look the twat without defending the eligibility issue.[emoji1] So you said Germany were taking the piss based on just one player you could think of so? I'm sorry I can't believe that In my opinion, one player playing for a country he shouldn't be playing for; again in my opinion, is taking the piss. Had England not capitulated against Germany and lost to a Cacau goal, I'd have been even more pissed off. Once again it's a route I'm glad England haven't taken advantage of.

Just assumption that you seemed to want me to erroneously name the likes of Ozil as non Germans and look a bit of a Jermaine Beckford/young Andy Cole type dick. Apologies if you just wanted to see me look the twat without defending the eligibility issue.[emoji1]

Cascarino didn't.

They even managed to pick one who didn't qualify in any way, shape or form in Cascarino. [emoji1]

With whom out of interest? Can't wait for his reply on that one. I would think all of the German squad apart from Klose and Podolski who moved at a young age were born and grew up in Germany ^^^^^^^^ there you go. Hope that satisfies you. Witness and take on board. Numbnuts. So one player then is taking the piss? Yup. Shouldn't be allowed. Incidentally where are you from triggs? Maybe it shouldn't be allowed but why are Germany taking the piss when other countries exploit it a lot more than Germany? And I'm Irish by the way Ah I see why you are defending the eligibility issue now, seeing as your country benefitted from picking one or two in its late 80s through to mid 90s heyday.

With whom out of interest? Can't wait for his reply on that one. I would think all of the German squad apart from Klose and Podolski who moved at a young age were born and grew up in Germany ^^^^^^^^ there you go. Hope that satisfies you. Witness and take on board. Numbnuts. So one player then is taking the piss? Yup. Shouldn't be allowed. Incidentally where are you from triggs?

With whom out of interest? Can't wait for his reply on that one. I would think all of the German squad apart from Klose and Podolski who moved at a young age were born and grew up in Germany ^^^^^^^^ there you go. Hope that satisfies you. Witness and take on board. Numbnuts.

With whom out of interest? Can't wait for his reply on that one. I would think all of the German squad apart from Klose and Podolski who moved at a young age were born and grew up in Germany They were, Ozil for example who a lot of people say "he's Turkish hehe" was actually born in Gelsenkirchen. I was thinking more Cacau to be honest.

100% with you . Cracking post.

Disco? I believe i'm eligible to represent Disco but I'm incognito.

I agree. Of course some countries would circumvent any such rule with daft citizenship loopholes, one I'm glad that England haven't gone down. It's a stupid suggestion IMO. Apart from running States, I don't see what nationality has to do with a job. Also the English FA definition of English is loose at best. English parents but never lived in England is fine. But spending 5 years in the country and becoming a British citizen is not fine. Not born here, don't have English parents but being 'raised' here for some period of time is also fine. Don't get it personally. It's international football, country v country. No-one who isn't eligible should be anywhere near a national set up. Don't mind the got a passport get a cap rules so much but I'd tighten the residency rules - makes a mockery unless you first moved over to wherever for non-footballing reasons. E.g. Eduardo shouldn't play for Croatia but Shaqiri should play for Switzerland. Disagree. If you're a citizen of a country, why shouldn't you be able to represent them for a sport? Eduardo's more a Croatian than Hargreaves was an Englishman. That's nonsense, piffle and bullshit all rolled up into a big bollocks sandwich. The blood in Owen Hargreaves is 100% British, Eduardo is Brazilian. In your mind if a dog was born in or decided to live in a stable, he'd then become a horse. So you disagree that if you're a citizen of a country, you should be able to represent them for a sporting reason? Nationality is not a race or species do the dog comparison is stupid. I don't believe in 'British Blood'. With your logic Raheem Sterling has 'Jamaican Blood', he was even born there. Shouldn't he be playing for Jamaica? To me there's plenty of ways you can become a national of a country. Being naturalised is just as valid as heritage of an individual who has never lived in the country of his heritage. I don't view nationality is this finite thing. What devalues sport is people moving to other countries to play internationals. We've seen Ireland take advantage of it and we're seeing Eas.tern European teams such as Croatia take advantage of it. Eduardo is a Brazilian and that should be the end of it. If he has children by a Croatian wife or even born in Croatia then they are fine to play for Croatia, but not Eduardo. Owen Hargreaves has British parents, one English , one Welsh. What planet are you on if you think that Eduardo is more Croatian than Hargreaves is English? How great it would've been to see George Best abandon his country to fulfil his dream of playing World Cup football? Answer: it wouldn't. Them's the cards you are dealt. He was a proud Northern Irishman and got on with it. My point is Owen Hargreaves is English via heritage only, Eduardo was naturalised. They are as valid as each other. Eduardo moved to Croatia at 16, represented them at u21 level. Who am i to tell him he's not Croatian? Once you accept you can be naturalised into a country and represent them, I don't see where you can draw a like. So you are now saying they are as valid as each other. Nice u-turn. Of course you're still wrong as Eduardo is a born and bred Brazilian despite what country he chooses to represent. IMO Hargreaves is a Canadian man of British heritage. Raised in Germany and Canada. IMO he should be eligible to play for all 3 but I suspect he feels more affinity to Canada than anywhere else. He was eligible to play for all 3 but chose England as he is English.

The Diego Costa episode is the epitome of how wrong the rule is. As someone said earlier we could've gone down that road with Arteta or Jose Enrique, and like him, I'm so glad we haven't. Germany are another country who take the piss in this respect.

I agree. Of course some countries would circumvent any such rule with daft citizenship loopholes, one I'm glad that England haven't gone down. It's a stupid suggestion IMO. Apart from running States, I don't see what nationality has to do with a job. Also the English FA definition of English is loose at best. English parents but never lived in England is fine. But spending 5 years in the country and becoming a British citizen is not fine. Not born here, don't have English parents but being 'raised' here for some period of time is also fine. Don't get it personally. It's international football, country v country. No-one who isn't eligible should be anywhere near a national set up. Don't mind the got a passport get a cap rules so much but I'd tighten the residency rules - makes a mockery unless you first moved over to wherever for non-footballing reasons. E.g. Eduardo shouldn't play for Croatia but Shaqiri should play for Switzerland. Disagree. If you're a citizen of a country, why shouldn't you be able to represent them for a sport? Eduardo's more a Croatian than Hargreaves was an Englishman. That's nonsense, piffle and bullshit all rolled up into a big bollocks sandwich. The blood in Owen Hargreaves is 100% British, Eduardo is Brazilian. In your mind if a dog was born in or decided to live in a stable, he'd then become a horse. So you disagree that if you're a citizen of a country, you should be able to represent them for a sporting reason? Nationality is not a race or species do the dog comparison is stupid. I don't believe in 'British Blood'. With your logic Raheem Sterling has 'Jamaican Blood', he was even born there. Shouldn't he be playing for Jamaica? To me there's plenty of ways you can become a national of a country. Being naturalised is just as valid as heritage of an individual who has never lived in the country of his heritage. I don't view nationality is this finite thing. Obviously coming from a Commonwealth country to England at the age of 5 is different to a chap moving to a different language speaking country at the age of 15 or 16. John Barnes is a better example for your argument. What does the Commonwealth have to do with it? Why 5 and not 15? Why does it matter if he has to learn the language at an older age? I thought of Barnes but wanted a modern example. I believe Commonwealth countries have the same rules as home nations, ie England, Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland, in that they are eligible to play for any of the Home Nations. I'm fairly certain that's the case.

Imagine the cunts ego if they ever did happen. Thankfully it never will. I hope it does. Let Fleet Street see him for the fraud that he is instead of berating us deluded Geordies for having the temerity to want better. It's not just those in the press, the guy gets defenders from fans of other clubs. It's far too easy to just look at another club and think "Yeah he's doing good". If Pardew got the England job I don't think he would make it to the end of Euro 2016 qualifying. It's the press feeding these fans though.

I agree. Of course some countries would circumvent any such rule with daft citizenship loopholes, one I'm glad that England haven't gone down. It's a stupid suggestion IMO. Apart from running States, I don't see what nationality has to do with a job. Also the English FA definition of English is loose at best. English parents but never lived in England is fine. But spending 5 years in the country and becoming a British citizen is not fine. Not born here, don't have English parents but being 'raised' here for some period of time is also fine. Don't get it personally. It's international football, country v country. No-one who isn't eligible should be anywhere near a national set up. Don't mind the got a passport get a cap rules so much but I'd tighten the residency rules - makes a mockery unless you first moved over to wherever for non-footballing reasons. E.g. Eduardo shouldn't play for Croatia but Shaqiri should play for Switzerland. Disagree. If you're a citizen of a country, why shouldn't you be able to represent them for a sport? Eduardo's more a Croatian than Hargreaves was an Englishman. That's nonsense, piffle and bullshit all rolled up into a big bollocks sandwich. The blood in Owen Hargreaves is 100% British, Eduardo is Brazilian. In your mind if a dog was born in or decided to live in a stable, he'd then become a horse. So you disagree that if you're a citizen of a country, you should be able to represent them for a sporting reason? Nationality is not a race or species do the dog comparison is stupid. I don't believe in 'British Blood'. With your logic Raheem Sterling has 'Jamaican Blood', he was even born there. Shouldn't he be playing for Jamaica? To me there's plenty of ways you can become a national of a country. Being naturalised is just as valid as heritage of an individual who has never lived in the country of his heritage. I don't view nationality is this finite thing. What devalues sport is people moving to other countries to play internationals. We've seen Ireland take advantage of it and we're seeing Eas.tern European teams such as Croatia take advantage of it. Eduardo is a Brazilian and that should be the end of it. If he has children by a Croatian wife or even born in Croatia then they are fine to play for Croatia, but not Eduardo. Owen Hargreaves has British parents, one English , one Welsh. What planet are you on if you think that Eduardo is more Croatian than Hargreaves is English? How great it would've been to see George Best abandon his country to fulfil his dream of playing World Cup football? Answer: it wouldn't. Them's the cards you are dealt. He was a proud Northern Irishman and got on with it. My point is Owen Hargreaves is English via heritage only, Eduardo was naturalised. They are as valid as each other. Eduardo moved to Croatia at 16, represented them at u21 level. Who am i to tell him he's not Croatian? Once you accept you can be naturalised into a country and represent them, I don't see where you can draw a like. So you are now saying they are as valid as each other. Nice u-turn. Of course you're still wrong as Eduardo is a born and bred Brazilian despite what country he chooses to represent.

I agree. Of course some countries would circumvent any such rule with daft citizenship loopholes, one I'm glad that England haven't gone down. It's a stupid suggestion IMO. Apart from running States, I don't see what nationality has to do with a job. Also the English FA definition of English is loose at best. English parents but never lived in England is fine. But spending 5 years in the country and becoming a British citizen is not fine. Not born here, don't have English parents but being 'raised' here for some period of time is also fine. Don't get it personally. It's international football, country v country. No-one who isn't eligible should be anywhere near a national set up. Don't mind the got a passport get a cap rules so much but I'd tighten the residency rules - makes a mockery unless you first moved over to wherever for non-footballing reasons. E.g. Eduardo shouldn't play for Croatia but Shaqiri should play for Switzerland. Disagree. If you're a citizen of a country, why shouldn't you be able to represent them for a sport? Eduardo's more a Croatian than Hargreaves was an Englishman. That's nonsense, piffle and bullshit all rolled up into a big bollocks sandwich. The blood in Owen Hargreaves is 100% British, Eduardo is Brazilian. In your mind if a dog was born in or decided to live in a stable, he'd then become a horse. So you disagree that if you're a citizen of a country, you should be able to represent them for a sporting reason? Nationality is not a race or species do the dog comparison is stupid. I don't believe in 'British Blood'. With your logic Raheem Sterling has 'Jamaican Blood', he was even born there. Shouldn't he be playing for Jamaica? To me there's plenty of ways you can become a national of a country. Being naturalised is just as valid as heritage of an individual who has never lived in the country of his heritage. I don't view nationality is this finite thing. Obviously coming from a Commonwealth country to England at the age of 5 is different to a chap moving to a different language speaking country at the age of 15 or 16. John Barnes is a better example for your argument.

I agree. Of course some countries would circumvent any such rule with daft citizenship loopholes, one I'm glad that England haven't gone down. It's a stupid suggestion IMO. Apart from running States, I don't see what nationality has to do with a job. Also the English FA definition of English is loose at best. English parents but never lived in England is fine. But spending 5 years in the country and becoming a British citizen is not fine. Not born here, don't have English parents but being 'raised' here for some period of time is also fine. Don't get it personally. It's international football, country v country. No-one who isn't eligible should be anywhere near a national set up. Don't mind the got a passport get a cap rules so much but I'd tighten the residency rules - makes a mockery unless you first moved over to wherever for non-footballing reasons. E.g. Eduardo shouldn't play for Croatia but Shaqiri should play for Switzerland. Disagree. If you're a citizen of a country, why shouldn't you be able to represent them for a sport? Eduardo's more a Croatian than Hargreaves was an Englishman. That's nonsense, piffle and bullshit all rolled up into a big bollocks sandwich. The blood in Owen Hargreaves is 100% British, Eduardo is Brazilian. In your mind if a dog was born in or decided to live in a stable, he'd then become a horse. So you disagree that if you're a citizen of a country, you should be able to represent them for a sporting reason? Nationality is not a race or species do the dog comparison is stupid. I don't believe in 'British Blood'. With your logic Raheem Sterling has 'Jamaican Blood', he was even born there. Shouldn't he be playing for Jamaica? To me there's plenty of ways you can become a national of a country. Being naturalised is just as valid as heritage of an individual who has never lived in the country of his heritage. I don't view nationality is this finite thing. What devalues sport is people moving to other countries to play internationals. We've seen Ireland take advantage of it and we're seeing Eas.tern European teams such as Croatia take advantage of it. Eduardo is a Brazilian and that should be the end of it. If he has children by a Croatian wife or even born in Croatia then they are fine to play for Croatia, but not Eduardo. Owen Hargreaves has British parents, one English , one Welsh. What planet are you on if you think that Eduardo is more Croatian than Hargreaves is English? How great it would've been to see George Best abandon his country to fulfil his dream of playing World Cup football? Answer: it wouldn't. Them's the cards you are dealt. He was a proud Northern Irishman and got on with it.

Imagine the cunts ego if they ever did happen. Thankfully it never will. I hope it does. Let Fleet Street see him for the fraud that he is instead of berating us deluded Geordies for having the temerity to want better.

I agree. Of course some countries would circumvent any such rule with daft citizenship loopholes, one I'm glad that England haven't gone down. It's a stupid suggestion IMO. Apart from running States, I don't see what nationality has to do with a job. Also the English FA definition of English is loose at best. English parents but never lived in England is fine. But spending 5 years in the country and becoming a British citizen is not fine. Not born here, don't have English parents but being 'raised' here for some period of time is also fine. Don't get it personally. It's international football, country v country. No-one who isn't eligible should be anywhere near a national set up. Don't mind the got a passport get a cap rules so much but I'd tighten the residency rules - makes a mockery unless you first moved over to wherever for non-footballing reasons. E.g. Eduardo shouldn't play for Croatia but Shaqiri should play for Switzerland. Disagree. If you're a citizen of a country, why shouldn't you be able to represent them for a sport? Eduardo's more a Croatian than Hargreaves was an Englishman. That's nonsense, piffle and bullshit all rolled up into a big bollocks sandwich. The blood in Owen Hargreaves is 100% British, Eduardo is Brazilian. In your mind if a dog was born in or decided to live in a stable, he'd then become a horse.

Someone did against Brazil in the 70's on a corner, never officiated again in the World Cup. Edit: Clive Thomas is the chap. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Thomas Remember watching that. Clive Thomas was a right tool. Every week he'd give a dodgy pen or send someone off.

Why did Trevor Brooking get a knighthood anyhow? Was it for his undoubted services to fence sittery?

Too many unSwiss names. Too many slalom seekers there.

All downhill for Switzerland here.

You can't blame the midfield for Jagielka ball watching on two occasions. The fact is there are three out of the back 4 who aren't good enough. ...but you can the midfield for the amount if exposure Jagielka suffered per game. When you're defence isn't good enough you need a midfield that will A) keep the ball and/or B) shield the back four. Ours was set up to do neither. Or he could just select defenders that are good enough. This isn't club football where you're restricted by budget, some more than others, where you may need to shield certain players. This is the World Cup and we have decent defenders who aren't even there. Steven Gerrard isn't a shielding type midfielder nor will he ever be, he's a playmaker whose legs aren't what they were. Jordan Henderson is a box to box bog standard midfielder who has had a good season despite previously looking average at best. Who are these quality centre backs you speak of? It's not shielding certain players either. It's just logical to select a midfield capable of keeping the ball in order to give the defence some respite. I didn't say centre backs, I said defenders. Bringing in John Terry and Ashley Cole for Jagielka and Baines would in my opinion have us sitting with at the very least 2 points. I wouldn't be so critical if he was blooding youngsters but he isn't.