mrmojorisin75

seems about right tbh, i think it's a long shot we'll go down but you'd have to be fuckin mental to not consider it's even possible at this juncture

Between 10 games into the next season and christmas seems to be the new limit. this is what i don't understand, in 2 years he's not managed to stamp his authority on the quality of our play yet in the next 6-9 months he's definitely going to do that is he? on what are people basing this judgement? Once we get a RB in better than Simpson we'll play much better. Once we get a CB in better than Williamson we will play much better. Once we get rid of Ba and move Cisse central we will play much better.

Between 10 games into the next season and christmas seems to be the new limit. this is what i don't understand, in 2 years he's not managed to stamp his authority on the quality of our play yet in the next 6-9 months he's definitely going to do that is he? on what are people basing this judgement?

let's look at it this way, appointed december 2010 so 2 years and 3 months in that 2 years and 3 months if you sit aside the actual results, and i mean last seasons 5th and this seasons fuckfest, where has he actually taken us in that 2 years? what's his mark been on the playing side, what changes has he made to the way we played under his predecessor? let's consider that hughton was sacked because "an individual with more managerial experience [was] needed to take the club forward" in my opinion the only way we've moved forward in those 2 years when looked at overall is that pardew has been handed a some younger, more talented players than he inherited...if the club has moved forward in those 2 years it's mainly in terms of the quality of recruitment can anyone honestly say pardew has taken us forward in any way shape or form on the pitch? how much time is enough time?

he had 7 games is it? with his signings and 100% home record. pardew's fucking bollocks like cp40

there it is

His CV suggests that last season wasn't the norm, why should we go through another season like this one to find out what we already know? I don't care about his CV, mate. I'll make my own judgement. I find that pretty staggering to be honest. Again with the dragging up posts. It may be surprising, but, 'staggering'? Is every manager doomed to repeat their previous failings for eternity? As I said in a later post, it's not as if I'm blindly ignoring it, I'd just rather see what happens here, before making my own judgements. there would be some logic to that had pardew shown the slightest, slightest sign that he knew what he was doing this season

right, have shit players get shit teams currently we have good playrers got shit team do the math

We're only 3 points above the drop zone ffs. Yeah, and we will go the entire season without being in the drop zone once. Crazy to not even consider the chance we may go down, given the points total we have and our current position. been here with Stu and inochi

Give me a name, who's the realistic and sure fire upgrade on Pardew P.S. No I don't, I just want "balance" not the apparently rampant "I want it NOW or I'll thcweam and thcweam until I'm sick" bollocks that follows EVERY loss, no matter what the circumstances. i've been very consistent in my opinion of pardew for a long time thanks, individual defeats don't change that what annoys me consistently is yesterday i could only watch the 2nd half on delay, when the screen flashed up and we were 2-0 down there was no surprise from me, in fact i was surprised it wasn't more by then, that's where we are under pardew mate we couldn't realistically expect anything out of that game yesterday but some fight and pride, did we show enough of either? not for me

incomparable indeed, mon didn't get 5 new players in january iirc also the bit in bold beggars belief OK, so who should we appoint tomorrow then ?? One name, that guarantees we win all our games from here on in (because that what folks on here seem to expect). i've already said what i think we should do, i honestly feel pardew is holding us back so badly now that the simple factor of removing from from the equation would be more than enough

incomparable indeed, mon didn't get 5 new players in january iirc also the bit in bold beggars belief

in fairness he didn't drop off at reading did he? he left for west ham iirc

We do have to "do" Fulham (which is usually easier said than done for us). But for the torch and pitchfork brigade, I really don't know how you can "have a go" at the reigning champions when you're missing three of your first choice back four, your first reserve fullback, your first choice keeper (although Elliot's done nowt wrong) your first choice DM and your best "threat" player. That's half a team right there. He's not going anywhere, if next season starts poorly, different ballgame. As for the "it follows the pattern of his career", no-one's stuck with him to see what happens next in "the pattern", we are going to, may as well get used to it. I've said it before, if it was up to this forum,you all would have had Fergie and Moyes sacked in their 3rd years. should sunderland have stuck with mon then?

We're only 3 points above the drop zone ffs. i'm a 1, never been anything else personally

if we do stay up it'll only because other clubs fuck it up worse than us, don't think it's likely we'll trailblaze our way out of it

Well, we gave Man Utd one of the best games, that I can recall, we've ever given them down there, we gave Arsenal all they could handle until we ran out of gas around 70 mins (they being totally rested) and we drew at Liverpool where we unrelentingly usually get beaten. Apart from that, your right. aye liverpool i suppose, but weren't they in a shite patch themselves when we played them? hardly been blazing a trail this season either, but as you say usually a graveyard so one in the column for pards chelsea and liverpool (draw) then, that about it?

Carvs for me like Nah I would want someone in with a bit "more" Id wait until summer. i think as an absolute minimum carver would let them go out and fucking play, which has got to be a better option than the nonsense pardew is serving up?

we shouldn't keep him now tbh, carver has enough experience to get us to the end of the season

i was along the lines of 'he's not good but he's not shit' for a long while, but he really is pretty shit when you come down to it that league table, as you say is a disgrace, there are no excuses for it

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aye but injuries and that man

that'd be a fuckin bonkers call at this stage of the game, if they stay then i could see it but now...hughes has no track record in saving teams from relegation does he?

you're forgetting pardew signed him, and pardew apparently hasn't got a fucking clue

agreed, but doesn't ashley have a history of being ruthless in his businesses? if pardew almost single-handedly cost my business mufti-millions after i backed him with new players in january i'd fuck him into oblivion on a point of principle if nothing else, i'd fully expect ashley to do the same you only stick with a manager that relegates the club when they're fighting against the odds with shit players and have little right to expect to stay up in the first place, pardew does not fit into this category at all