Thomson Mouse

No, just no. It'll make people want us to fail even more and if he doesn't start getting results the pressure from the dickhead press will be ridiculous. He needs to be brought in as a figurehead type upstairs.

Not sure whether thats sarcasm??

Can’t remember if I used those exact words but I think he’s a good coach from listening to what our (and England) players have said about him. That along with he understands the area would for me suggest he could have role in the future, not necessarily with the first team though

I don’t think he’s ‘brill’, I just think he’s getting some shit he doesn’t deserve

I’m really trying to stay away from this but was it Jones who dictated the amount of days off or how many times they trained?

So The Chronicle article which isn’t written by Ryder trying to link some events with a new manager makes this place spin out

Although that’s a bit basic it is true. Pride is a huge thing there.

You should probably understand a bit more about Middle Eastern culture then.

Yep, usually genetically passed on, especially those with relatives that have IBD.

Seriously. If this is what we’re like after being bought out by these guys then the next few seasons are going to be a nightmare on here. Just fucking calm down

There’s no way Jones could compete with Benitez, complete non-argument

They didn’t change enough to keep us up which is entirely reasonable, yet you expect things to change from a coach in two games. Let’s just agree to disagree

Read the other posts

I already stated that I didn’t blame him. The point of this discussion was about how quickly things could be changed, I used a world class manager like Benitez in the context of our shell of a club that it couldn’t. Now who’s twisting things?

Yet were were relegated under him?

Bruce used that excuse nearly until he was sacked. Didn’t hear Benitez whining on like him

It can’t be changed straight away though. This is the result of years of utter shite culminating in Bruce. Benitez took us down (thats not a go at him) and he’s a world class manager. Jones isn’t immune to criticism, I don’t agree with his team selections but the rest of what you post is what you ‘personally feel’, not factual.

I’ve posted my opinion on this topic plenty of times. It’s not snarky at all. I’m really not sure what people expect from Jones - he’s clearly a good coach, you can see the difference in that the players look like they know what they’re doing and he is with England. Pretty sure when it was trendy to like him there were a few vids of the players saying how much they enjoyed his sessions. He’s not a manager and from looking at some of his selections over the last two games he probably won’t be, but that doesn’t mean he’s not a good coach. Anyone that’s got the slightest knowledge of football would know after 8 days training he’s not going to change things a lot, especially after we’ve been well and truly Bruced, which, everyone knew would happen. He had two games, his responsibility was to preserve the goal difference and maybe got a couple of points for the next manager. If he’d have attacked Chelsea, who are clearly one of the best teams in Europe we would’ve been taken to the cleaners. The people responsible for this shit fest are Ashley, then Bruce. If I’m coming across snarky it’s because I can’t get my head around what people expected. If this is just the beginning of our new ownership and attitudes then you’d best take some melatonin for the next two seasons.

I’m really not. See the post below

Well atm that is up for debate. If it’s true then it’s down to Bruce

Aaah right so it wasn’t Bruce’s lack of anything it was the coaches not coaching properly. Got it.

Didn’t really have a choice though

Nowhere near, but then look at the amount of time they had off under Bruce This might surprise you but we’re waaaay below Brentford.

In a nutshell

I do get we’re you’re coming from and tbh I thought they looked reasonably organised defensively in the first half. Not too much to expect per se, but he was always going to try and set out for a draw, after that the next best result is to keep the goal difference respectable for the next manager.