Neil

Wow, bold stake to have on Anderlecht mate. Unlucky.

Did I or did I not say Sunderland-Newcastle had draw written all over it? More specifically, 1-1. Chelsea.

Schalke are a good side but away from home they don't look the same. Arsenal @ 11/10 looks great value. This is after claiming Chelsea 6/5 DNB was great value. Me.

Agree with your post here. I think the prevailing attitude of a conservative society is that you would be derided as "being racist" (using your post here as an example) and that your comments are distinctions without a difference. The whole point of course is that there are differences. Things like this aren't debated in a mainstream, public forum, which doesn't help. The issue is there will always be idiots who don't understand the difference between actual banter (a rare usage of this word in its natural context?!) with someone who happens to be black, and racially derogatory comments against someone because he is black. I mean that both in terms of actual morons who think it's acceptable to use the latter 'interpretation', and also people in positions of power who promote anything negative as automatically 'racist', i.e. much of the media. I dunno, it's hard to really articulate the issue at the heart of this debate succinctly. It's interesting you point out the fact a zero tolerance approach may have helped us make progess in recent decades and that's a view I'd share, but surely you can't keep "zero-tolerating" everything. Education and tolerance need to prevail or we'll be in a nasty circle for decades to come IMO.

Think I'd do well avoiding tomorrow. Tonight was pretty chaotic and in the end I was fortunate to get out of it breaking even. A lot of weird games, including: Man Utd going 2-0 down before winning Barca going behind and winning in the very last minute Juve drawing Galatasaray drawing with Cluj at home, who had 10 men for an hour So... Arsenal/Porto double?

:lol: One for the initial humour, one for the intense obsession.

Break even due to Cardiff finally scoring vs 9 man Watford. But Juve have screwed a lot of people tonight no doubt, including myself.

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So I'm going to miss out on one bet due to Juventus being unable to score 2 goals against a fucking Danish team, and screwed on another by Cardiff being unable to score against 9 fucking men.

Juve you fucking cockteases. Just means I'll just lose my bets as opposed to them being nowhere near. Miss a free header from 8 yards.

3-2 Man Utd.

Man Utd 2-2.

Nordsjaelland 1-0 Juventus, what the fuck's going on?

I'll join you.

Iniesta 1-1.

Inevitable goal back.

So, everyone have the Braga -1/Celtic double?

This is hilarious.

So.

Celtic!! :lol:

Shakhtar 1-0.

Man Utd and Juventus both over 1.5 goals as my main bet. Couple more to follow. --------------- Chelsea 2/1 on PP. Shakhtar are certainly a good side but that seems very generous. 6/5 DNB, near enough their full strength side.

Oh dear Creeky.

Rocky Creek it is.

Puyol, Pique, Alves, Busquets all out. I reckon something like 3-1.