Geordie Ahmed

Hahaha at the linesman in the West Ham-City game 

1 minute ago, Mike said:

Can Everton still go down?

Yes but it's very very unlikely now

I put Bowen on the bench in FPL so he's bound to have a blinder

2 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

We need him back at St James at some stage, I'd have him flown in on a helicopter again if I could.

I agree and I think Monday is the perfect opportunity, big celebration, won't distract from the seasons objectives as they have been met and it provides some sort of closure

4 hours ago, Scoot said:

 

What I want to know is, why are you copying off sunderland?

You just know several years down the line the marrative will be that they started it and we copied it

I'm not surprised he didn't want to come to the Spurs match even though it would have been class to see him

He's a rare breed in football, incredibly unselfish and I find it staggering that there are knackers amongst our fanbase that even have a negative word to say about the man

I hope with safety confirmed that he'll be there at the match, think it's important for that to happen as a way for us to thank him for everything after it ended disgracefully 14 years ago

Liverpool are gonna win this 

Back to back final wins on pens 

Blatant pull back by TAA

6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

In real time I thought that Thiago challenge was a red. Clearly a two footed flying challenge. Not even talked about, unbelievable.

 

 

 

Same, was shocked absolutely nowt was said/done about it 

36 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

No, the point is the ‘whatabouttery’ by sections of the NUFC support suggesting that this is the same as the PIF’s investments in Disney etc.  The difference is that the PIF aren’t attempting to modify Disney to suit their own ends - and the shadada reference was not intended to be Islamophobic, but a reference to its being a part of the flag of KSA

Don't worry I know it wasn't an Islamophobic comment, just found it an odd comment since the flag of KSA isn't being added to our strip. I do agree that the whatabouttery doesn't exactly work as it's comparing apples and oranges. PIF for example couldn't change the Disney logo even if they wanted to. 

As for the strip I'm not naive to the clear link between the strip and Saudi national team. I personally find it a strange red line but everybody is different. I think when we accept the investment, the ridding of Ashley, the signing of Bruno, the training ground plans etc then kicking off that there is a link between the away kit and the country of the owners is a bit odd and certainly naive. 

That investment was always going to come at a cost, so far imo a red line hasn't been crossed. Red line for me off the top of my head would be changing our home strip away from black and white, changing the name of the club, renaming the stadium for anything over than revenue benefits etc etc

25 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Not sure it’s as simple as people ‘getting over themselves’ tbf.  It isn’t a good look, and it is only going provoke a response.  Besides, having spent a year and a bit ‘proving’ separation, the club are opening up to potential issues should the noise become so great that the PL / govt intervenes.  Not a smart move at all.

 

On another point I’ve seen elsewhere - one of the usual defences offered up in the past is that the PIF also invest in Disney / Uber / name of another brand.  But they don’t expect the Disney logo to have the shahada written underneath it. This is all completely unnecessary and the response was always going to happen - and for those who absolutely love every part of this takeover, it should be remembered that this isn’t a ‘fixed’ settlement between the PL, PIF and NUFC - the KSA govt is meant to have nowt to do with us.  Bedecking the team in the national strip of KSA is potentially opening them up to further questions.  This is honestly one of the stupidest decisions I’ve seen by NUFC since … well, there were so many under Ashley it’s hard to keep track 

Have I missed where they have added the shahada to the away kit? 

11 minutes ago, nbthree3 said:

They've changed the colour recently to fit in... orange, yellow/lime green, gold I can remember 

So changing the colour of the badge isn't a new thing to impose a Saudi "colour" on us.

Not sure if Puma did but Castore changed the colour of the badge to match the logo last season, don't know if that was a first 

9 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

I’m at ease with it a new away top hasn’t just brought this about. Everyone knows where owned by Saudi Arabia, people need to accept it or like LV said make choices, instead of boring the majority of us with their moral struggles.

Whilst I'm comfortable with the takeover and this top clearly is Saudi influenced (doesn't bother me) I don't think it's fair to dismiss the moral struggles people have

It's a forum so discussions taking place is quite fundamental but this entire subject isn't black and white, so why expect people to be such a way? 

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The Saudi Golf CEO is confirmed as Director

5 minutes ago, Smal said:

Oh so it's ok then. 

The takeover I was happy with and the shirt doesn't bother me so I'm not fussed

I'm just saying the symbolism started with the takeover so it's naivety to expect no connection between the two. I get some people were conflicted with the takeover and maybe they went with the burying their heads in the sand approach, so perhaps this shirt has them questioning their stance on the entire thing. 

I guess each person has to deal with this their own way but whether you or others like it or not, the connection existed the second the takeover happened and it will remain, if not get stronger. 

3 minutes ago, Smal said:

You are just ignoring the massive, massive caveat that the kingdom is a murderous and despotic regime that we are just going to be a symbol of.

The symbol started the second the takeover was completed, the colour of the away shirt is minor in the grand scheme of things

7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I get being fine with the connection and all that, whatever, who cares. But to tell yourself that there's no connection and that the colour scheme is just some sort of coincidence is wild like.

I don't think anyone has suggested it is a coincidence (if I've missed it then they are clearly naive), it's clearly been thought of either by Castore or the club. Fairly certain that's a unanimous position

Where the difference lies is in whether people are bothered by it, that's clearly a mixed reaction

1 hour ago, madras said:

However, let's say this is our away shirt and for all we dont make much directly from it but naturally it takes off in Saudi.......do we have more of an argument for a whopping great big sponsorship deal from a Saudi company ?

That's where my thinking is based on nothing but pure guesswork and massive assumptions

If it sells well then we can justify an increase in sponsorship, which will be useful since the Premier League are trying to restrict us as much as possible

How can the PL argue we should receive as much as say Villa if we "sell" 3 times as many shirts for example

I understand why some people would be uncomfortable with it, I wouldn't suggest they feel a different way but the reality is our owners are who they are

The connection and link isn't going away, will only get stronger 

Personally I like the shirt, subject to the sponsor I'll be getting it 

Even if kit sales don't drive huge revenue in isolation, if "sales" rocket in SA then we could increase the revenue we get from the manufacturer and then any potential sponsors

As for City, they didn't have these FFP constraints as well as the related party hurdles to overcome, so if this is a creative way around it then so be it

Vini is having a mint season, done well considering it wasn't long ago Benzema was telling Mendy how shit he is

Not sure how anyone can disagree with Holding being sent off, as clear as can be imo

That's game well and truly over

1 minute ago, ManDoon said:

Dunno about that one 

You don't think it was a yellow?