Geordie Ahmed

Liverpool are gonna win this Back to back final wins on pens

Blatant pull back by TAA

Same, was shocked absolutely nowt was said/done about it

Don't worry I know it wasn't an Islamophobic comment, just found it an odd comment since the flag of KSA isn't being added to our strip. I do agree that the whatabouttery doesn't exactly work as it's comparing apples and oranges. PIF for example couldn't change the Disney logo even if they wanted to. As for the strip I'm not naive to the clear link between the strip and Saudi national team. I personally find it a strange red line but everybody is different. I think when we accept the investment, the ridding of Ashley, the signing of Bruno, the training ground plans etc then kicking off that there is a link between the away kit and the country of the owners is a bit odd and certainly naive. That investment was always going to come at a cost, so far imo a red line hasn't been crossed. Red line for me off the top of my head would be changing our home strip away from black and white, changing the name of the club, renaming the stadium for anything over than revenue benefits etc etc

Have I missed where they have added the shahada to the away kit?

So changing the colour of the badge isn't a new thing to impose a Saudi "colour" on us.

Not sure if Puma did but Castore changed the colour of the badge to match the logo last season, don't know if that was a first

Whilst I'm comfortable with the takeover and this top clearly is Saudi influenced (doesn't bother me) I don't think it's fair to dismiss the moral struggles people have It's a forum so discussions taking place is quite fundamental but this entire subject isn't black and white, so why expect people to be such a way?

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The takeover I was happy with and the shirt doesn't bother me so I'm not fussed I'm just saying the symbolism started with the takeover so it's naivety to expect no connection between the two. I get some people were conflicted with the takeover and maybe they went with the burying their heads in the sand approach, so perhaps this shirt has them questioning their stance on the entire thing. I guess each person has to deal with this their own way but whether you or others like it or not, the connection existed the second the takeover happened and it will remain, if not get stronger.

The symbol started the second the takeover was completed, the colour of the away shirt is minor in the grand scheme of things

I don't think anyone has suggested it is a coincidence (if I've missed it then they are clearly naive), it's clearly been thought of either by Castore or the club. Fairly certain that's a unanimous position Where the difference lies is in whether people are bothered by it, that's clearly a mixed reaction

That's where my thinking is based on nothing but pure guesswork and massive assumptions If it sells well then we can justify an increase in sponsorship, which will be useful since the Premier League are trying to restrict us as much as possible How can the PL argue we should receive as much as say Villa if we "sell" 3 times as many shirts for example

I understand why some people would be uncomfortable with it, I wouldn't suggest they feel a different way but the reality is our owners are who they are The connection and link isn't going away, will only get stronger Personally I like the shirt, subject to the sponsor I'll be getting it

Even if kit sales don't drive huge revenue in isolation, if "sales" rocket in SA then we could increase the revenue we get from the manufacturer and then any potential sponsors As for City, they didn't have these FFP constraints as well as the related party hurdles to overcome, so if this is a creative way around it then so be it

Vini is having a mint season, done well considering it wasn't long ago Benzema was telling Mendy how shit he is

Not sure how anyone can disagree with Holding being sent off, as clear as can be imo

That's game well and truly over

You don't think it was a yellow?

That's absolutely moronic, what a clown

Holding sent off

I missed it happen live, did the ref give it? Or VAR?

Falls into that category of dumb from the defender but Son has clearly exaggerated it

What do at think? Pen or not?

I really like the away kit, think it will be really good depending on what sponsor we end up with.