Geordie Ahmed

Because the lowballing benefits Ashley/Charnley, they don't care who the other team is

Thing is though, even though they can bat it away, if we keep getting at them in every meeting then it will become tedious for them, also potentially derailing key issues, especially if some sort of crises was to come up. Not sure viable/legal/practical it is BUT if we have a canny number of fans rocking up and just asking about nufc then it becomes an issue for Ashley/other significant shareholders. The moment we make it a problem for SD is the moment I believe he'll get us sold. Right now owning us is easy and it benefits SD, if we can flip that and make it uncomfortable and hindrance to SD then hopefully we'll be rid of him.

So Rafa found out the price and now Charnley is doing the typical of offering less than what Rafa had agreed/found out? These bastards will never change.

That was a decent chance for Maja BUT his touch let him down. Could have been level.

That was a decent chance for Maja BUT his touch let him down. Could have been level.

The "Don" with a look of regret

Yep, though Taylor has had a few chances to just run at him and instead he's cut in

couldn't believe how tame that effort was man then remembered these are in League 1 Same, some awful touches and passes and I have to remind myself there's a reason for that, the standard is shite

That was a decent chance for Charlton, should be more than 1 up, let's hope they don't regret it

Everyone is capable of boycotting ... some just choose not to , for all the reasons you've delineated and some equally moronic ones you haven't ... but everyone who buys a season ticket is an adult human with agency , they could boycott but they'd rather not ( the cunts ) That's kind of what I was getting at, they're not willing to take that step, I see it as a capability issue, it's clearly a weakness imo. Although I personally think boycotting should be done and would be effective I accept not everyone will agree with that BUT what isn't acceptable is just rocking up every week and not doing anything. That's just not on, you don't want to sacrifice your fortnightly habit, fair enough BUT then do something else.

Less money? Less than what exactly? He's putting in absolutely nowt, even the money the club generates is not being put back in. The battle lines have been drawn by Ashley, now it's up to each fan to decide where they stand. I understand not everyone is capable of boycotting, either they naively believe they can "support the team and not the regime" or they aren't willing to make the necessary sacrifice BUT they then should be doing something else. Just turning up to the match and/or criticising those that are trying to do something is not an option, well it is BUT it's a cowards option.

Just watched it, no idea why it had to be presented on separate screens, why not just show it all together and then highlight Ashley is a scumbag.

I'd settle for them showing the net spend, that would be an improvement on what they usually do

Apparently Pete Graves is going to give the full picture

Exactly. Plus the fact we are seeing some decent amount of unity has to be encouraging. Whatever we decide to do it's always going to be more effective when we do it as a collective rather than lots of smaller groups.

Forming this opinion from a few comments during the preseason tour doesn't make sense to me, tbh. We have not seen them play a competitive match or even a preseason match with anything resembling a first team squad. The last time we saw them play they were second and are likely to make at least one more big signing before the season starts. They are still second-favourites for the title in my opinion. Mourinho's histrionics do not seem any different to me, he has largely been a petulant and negative personality since he started at Madrid. I agree with this, think they'll finish top 4 easily. To seriously challenge for the title Mourinho will need to loosen the shackles, can't park the bus as there are too many good teams at the top. Also Pogba is full of confidence and Mourinho might have learnt a thing or two from Deschamps as to how to get the best out of him.

Would be a very decent window should we get all of those and Maia. People can be as negative as they want about net spend etc. but on the face of it we'd be much stronger, squad-wise and personnel-wise, than the beginning of last season. When was the last time we addressed this many problem positions before the season started? Being stronger than the start of last season shouldn't be the benchmark. The reason people are negative is because we should be aiming much, much higher. Also we are being outspent (I know spending doesn't guarantee success BUT it gives you a better chance than not spending) by teams around us, look at the 2 teams that got promoted with us, if I'm not mistaken Brighton have spent £100mill since last summer, Huddersfield have spent about £60mill, whilst we've actually made money. That's the reason people are negative and rightly so.

From Mark Douglas in the chronicle This is beyond laughable, such a piss take. Conveniently even though Sissoko was mentioned above there was no mention of the installment we'll be due for him and Wijnaldum. We're the only club that operates in such a shitehouse manner.

Ashley apologist so makes sense, fully expect him to be wheeled out for press interviews praising Ashley.

Agreed, if we get Rondon then that would be if, no chance we'd get another striker.

Aye. Wellbeck would fuck our boxes very well, but we just won’t stretch that far. Was a missed opportunity when he went to Arsenal, and now we’ll miss out again. He'd do what now?

The money is there to spend £30mill+ on a striker that is likely to get your 12-15 goals at least BUT we know spending that kind of money is out of the question. Rondon's movement and strength is good, we can benefit from that, the concern as it was last season is scoring enough goals.

Not watching, how has Aboubakar played? Not sure how realistic BUT much prefer him to Rondon

Totally out of context like. I'm happy with his agenda, but to say he doesn't have one is naive. I saw nothing from Staveley's bid to suggest otherwise. The fact it impacted on our transfer window (like i said it would in early December) left a bitter feeling. We got lucky with our much maligned loans, but the damage the bid nearly done to us was almost catastrophic. I don't know if i'd want that near the club in all honesty, even if it meant getting rid of Ashley. Just another party who doesn't fully grasp football. Again how naive you must be if you believe it actually impacted our transfer window. The press release from Ashley/Bishop etc said the last contact was made just before the window had opened and they stated they will no longer be discussing it with Staveley so they had a full month to do any transfers, so what stopped them? (Probably the same thing that has stopped them from multiple other windows)

You're absolutely right, I just worded it badly, I meant he doesn't give a shit about the club progressing. He's happy for it to coast along.