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Have all Stoke fans got such humiliatingly bad craic?

£10 Real 6/1 Meh, fuck it.

2p machines? Yeah, used to play constantly in the Metroland arcades

Barca -1 Real Brum DNB

Fair points Hawk. From our point of view it's still very much in our own hands, we can effect the outcome by being better than Tottenham over the next 5 games, whether that comes down to points of GD. Tottenham can say the same, Chelsea can't. From a completely literal point of view in which only 1 person/team can have it in their hands at any given time, then I agree, nobody mathematically has it in their hands at current, however in reality it is in Tottenhams hands to lose. That's how I see it, i'm going to bed

They could get beat 4-0 off some cunts and us get beat 1-0. Would knock it down to 8. FWIW we havn't thrashed anyone by more than 2 goals in our last 5 games and have seen our goal difference shift from -1 to +8.

It should actually be "CL = (NF-NA) >= ((TF-TA) + 11)" or "CL = (NF-NA) > ((TF-TA) + 10)" as we would finish ahead of them on Goals For if we were to score 11+

You don't seem to have the maturity to make a valid case in all honestly, hence how Madras seems to have taken over whilst you stand on the sidelines celebrating some imaginary victory over the internet. Show me one post in this thread where I have said something that was factually, logically incorrect and deserving of the ridicule Ali gave me and you were laughing at and you will get your apology. In the meantime, I will consider your "i'm not taking the term "in our own hands" literally" statement as your admission that you were in way over your head. I laughed at Ali's tongue in cheek comment, you clearly took it to heart and have been Picarding the fuck out of people left right and centre and just generally been going on like a bairn. Water off a ducks back and what not. So to clarify, you are saying that a top 4 finish is mathematically out of our hands?

You don't seem to have the maturity to make a valid case in all honestly, hence how Madras seems to have taken over whilst you stand on the sidelines celebrating some imaginary victory over the internet.

Well no, because in that scenario we wouldn't have fulfilled the criteria needed to finish 4th. Like i've said, i'm not taking the term "in our own hands" literally, i'm just looking at it from our point of view, and that is "In the unlikely outcome that both teams win every game, IF we outscore Tottenham by 11 goals we finish 4th".

wits ? missing another 't' aren't you ?

Ali's right. Spurs could win all their games and still not finish 4th so it's not in their hands either. Spurs just so happen to have a significant goal difference advantage at present, but it's in neither team's hands in the real sense of the phrase. As soon as a team goes a point or more clear it's in their hands. We have a winner (well, another one who understands what I've said all along)! Are you taking the f***ing p*ss? Are you? So i'm thick as f*** for saying: You then agree with Interpolic who writes this exact same logic, just in a different manner It's not the exact same logic though. What you fail to understand is that saying "It's not in Newcastle's hands" does not equal "It's in Spurs' hands" as both are in fact relying on the results of the other, i.e. it's in neither's hands. I said the first, but never the second. I havn't failed to understand anything, you have however. You have confused "It's still in our hands" as "it's solely in our own hands". I expect an apology. but if it isn't solely in our hands whats the point in the statement ? Because it states that we can still finish 4th in spite of other results, if it wasn't in our own hands then that would not be possible, and infact it would be "solely in Spurs' hands". i see, blackburns fate is in their own hands aswell then as they can avoid relegation in spite of other results, just depending on what those results are ? No, hence why i've previously stated "in spite of other results". Blackburn will be relegated if other teams ahead of them win all of their games. and if we win all our games ? Then we'll probably finish 4th as Tottenham wont win all of theirs? probably ? i thought if it was in our hands, the phrase means that if we win all our games nothing couild stop it.........guess what, that doesn't work in this scenario. I've always took the phrase as meaning that you are very much in power of your own destiny, we are, no matter what Tottenham do we can still finish 4th, to me that's still in our hands.

Ali's right. Spurs could win all their games and still not finish 4th so it's not in their hands either. Spurs just so happen to have a significant goal difference advantage at present, but it's in neither team's hands in the real sense of the phrase. As soon as a team goes a point or more clear it's in their hands. We have a winner (well, another one who understands what I've said all along)! Are you taking the f***ing p*ss? Are you? So i'm thick as f*** for saying: You then agree with Interpolic who writes this exact same logic, just in a different manner It's not the exact same logic though. What you fail to understand is that saying "It's not in Newcastle's hands" does not equal "It's in Spurs' hands" as both are in fact relying on the results of the other, i.e. it's in neither's hands. I said the first, but never the second. I havn't failed to understand anything, you have however. You have confused "It's still in our hands" as "it's solely in our own hands". I expect an apology. but if it isn't solely in our hands whats the point in the statement ? Because it states that we can still finish 4th in spite of other results, if it wasn't in our own hands then that would not be possible, and infact it would be "solely in Spurs' hands". i see, blackburns fate is in their own hands aswell then as they can avoid relegation in spite of other results, just depending on what those results are ? No, hence why i've previously stated "in spite of other results". Blackburn will be relegated if other teams ahead of them win all of their games. and if we win all our games ? Then we'll probably finish 4th as Tottenham wont win all of theirs?

I'm a hammer tbf

Ali's right. Spurs could win all their games and still not finish 4th so it's not in their hands either. Spurs just so happen to have a significant goal difference advantage at present, but it's in neither team's hands in the real sense of the phrase. As soon as a team goes a point or more clear it's in their hands. We have a winner (well, another one who understands what I've said all along)! Are you taking the f***ing p*ss? Are you? So i'm thick as f*** for saying: You then agree with Interpolic who writes this exact same logic, just in a different manner It's not the exact same logic though. What you fail to understand is that saying "It's not in Newcastle's hands" does not equal "It's in Spurs' hands" as both are in fact relying on the results of the other, i.e. it's in neither's hands. I said the first, but never the second. I havn't failed to understand anything, you have however. You have confused "It's still in our hands" as "it's solely in our own hands". I expect an apology. but if it isn't solely in our hands whats the point in the statement ? Because it states that we can still finish 4th in spite of other results, if it wasn't in our own hands then that would not be possible, and infact it would be "solely in Spurs' hands". i see, blackburns fate is in their own hands aswell then as they can avoid relegation in spite of other results, just depending on what those results are ? No, hence why i've previously stated "in spite of other results". Blackburn will be relegated if other teams ahead of them win all of their games.

Ali's right. Spurs could win all their games and still not finish 4th so it's not in their hands either. Spurs just so happen to have a significant goal difference advantage at present, but it's in neither team's hands in the real sense of the phrase. As soon as a team goes a point or more clear it's in their hands. We have a winner (well, another one who understands what I've said all along)! Are you taking the f***ing p*ss? Are you? So i'm thick as f*** for saying: You then agree with Interpolic who writes this exact same logic, just in a different manner It's not the exact same logic though. What you fail to understand is that saying "It's not in Newcastle's hands" does not equal "It's in Spurs' hands" as both are in fact relying on the results of the other, i.e. it's in neither's hands. I said the first, but never the second. I havn't failed to understand anything, you have however. You have confused "It's still in our hands" as "it's solely in our own hands". I expect an apology. So it's in our hands but also in Spurs' hands? The statement isn't literal like.

Ali's right. Spurs could win all their games and still not finish 4th so it's not in their hands either. Spurs just so happen to have a significant goal difference advantage at present, but it's in neither team's hands in the real sense of the phrase. As soon as a team goes a point or more clear it's in their hands. We have a winner (well, another one who understands what I've said all along)! Are you taking the f***ing p*ss? Are you? So i'm thick as f*** for saying: You then agree with Interpolic who writes this exact same logic, just in a different manner It's not the exact same logic though. What you fail to understand is that saying "It's not in Newcastle's hands" does not equal "It's in Spurs' hands" as both are in fact relying on the results of the other, i.e. it's in neither's hands. I said the first, but never the second. I havn't failed to understand anything, you have however. You have confused "It's still in our hands" as "it's solely in our own hands". I expect an apology. but if it isn't solely in our hands whats the point in the statement ? Because it states that we can still finish 4th in spite of other results, if it wasn't in our own hands then that would not be possible, and infact it would be "solely in Spurs' hands".

Ali's right. Spurs could win all their games and still not finish 4th so it's not in their hands either. Spurs just so happen to have a significant goal difference advantage at present, but it's in neither team's hands in the real sense of the phrase. As soon as a team goes a point or more clear it's in their hands. We have a winner (well, another one who understands what I've said all along)! Are you taking the f***ing p*ss? Are you? So i'm thick as f*** for saying: You then agree with Interpolic who writes this exact same logic, just in a different manner It's not the exact same logic though. What you fail to understand is that saying "It's not in Newcastle's hands" does not equal "It's in Spurs' hands" as both are in fact relying on the results of the other, i.e. it's in neither's hands. I said the first, but never the second. I havn't failed to understand anything, you have however. You have confused "It's still in our hands" as "it's solely in our own hands". I expect an apology.

Ali's right. Spurs could win all their games and still not finish 4th so it's not in their hands either. Spurs just so happen to have a significant goal difference advantage at present, but it's in neither team's hands in the real sense of the phrase. As soon as a team goes a point or more clear it's in their hands. We have a winner (well, another one who understands what I've said all along)! Are you taking the f***ing p*ss? Are you? So i'm thick as fuck for saying: You then agree with Interpolic who writes this exact same logic, just in a different manner

Ali's right. Spurs could win all their games and still not finish 4th so it's not in their hands either. Spurs just so happen to have a significant goal difference advantage at present, but it's in neither team's hands in the real sense of the phrase. As soon as a team goes a point or more clear it's in their hands. We have a winner (well, another one who understands what I've said all along)! Are you taking the fucking piss?

No, with the helping hand of logic, this is in our own hands. It's also still mathematically in our hands of course, but you knew that. Enlighten me Not sure if you noticed, we're level on points with Spurs, not behind. I guess goal difference is a concept that's a little bit difficult for some people. Not mathematically in our own hands than is it? Yes it exactly is. You've tried to be pedantic, you have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting. :lol: :lol: *Leaves for the ace post thread* Don't. He's wrong and you'll look like an idiot.. It was a class post and 'mathematically' it's still in our hands, i'm sorry but it is. We CAN still finish 4th in spite of other results, so if Tottenham win all 5 games, we can still 'mathmatically' finish ahead of them. Mathematically it isn't in out favour. I don't even know why this is up for debate.

No, with the helping hand of logic, this is in our own hands. It's also still mathematically in our hands of course, but you knew that. Enlighten me Not sure if you noticed, we're level on points with Spurs, not behind. I guess goal difference is a concept that's a little bit difficult for some people. Not mathematically in our own hands than is it? Yes it exactly is. You've tried to be pedantic, you have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting. :lol: :lol: *Leaves for the ace post thread*

Wolves aren't mathematically relegated.

No, with the helping hand of logic, this is in our own hands. It's also still mathematically in our hands of course, but you knew that. Enlighten me Not sure if you noticed, we're level on points with Spurs, not behind. I guess goal difference is a concept that's a little bit difficult for some people. Not mathematically in our own hands than is it? Yes

Had a 5er on Wigan, Rennes & Sevilla and checked the scores in that order when I got in. I feel like crying