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Papiss Demba Cisse ‏@CissePapiss 3m Congrats to man utd for winning the premiere league. 1 day we will win it.

The way they are scoring goals now and add Götze to that. Try fucking up with them on the next Football Manager!

Don't agree. €37million? They still have Reus who is a better player, will be interesting too see what they will do with that money though. Are they not still in a load of debt?

Timing is dubious like.

Pep's welcoming gift.

Holy shit.

I don't think he adapts or reacts to anything in particular, he just knows how to transition teams between generation to generation better than anybody. Most of those teams had the better of Man U for a spell, but then they always rebuilt while their contenders failed to. True. To have been going for as long as he has and to have maintained that high standard is massively impressive. All players buy into his ethos.

Honestly I think he would. Pretty sure he was wanting to come back before he went to Villa.

Aye, they were rucking with each but did souness ever have us this low in the league and fearing for our safety with 4 games left ? Edit Sourface also had a UEFA cup QF to deal with and an FA cup Semi final to deal with that season. His comments, two games close to each other "its what you play football for" Two absolutely scandalous 4-1 defeats. The sporting game one of my worst as a supporter.

The comment about 40 % fans 60 % customers? Something like that. Pardew is annoying but with Souness he practically blamed defeats on SJP's atmosphere. He was a total bellend and was bitter towards Newcastle all the time.

No, but he got sacked with time to spare. We got tonked 3-0 off City, who were god awful under Stuart Pierce at the time. We were hurtling towards the bottom 3 and imo he'd have took us down. He'd also spent a fortune on players and results were terrible, albeit he did have injuries. Not a defence of Pardew by the way, but we were in utter tatters with Souness in charge, worse than now for me.

No where near as bad. We had our own players fighting each other under Souness man

As bad as Pardew has been this season I still cant categorise him with Souness. His man management skills were absolutely atrocious, but aye you're right in what you say.

He's got an ego, no question.

He is a frequent spouter of nonsense like. Strange thing is he never was when he first came imo. Always seemed level headed and said the right things, and last season - since the pressure has gone up this season he's really responded poorly.

The disallowed goal was terrible but we've had loads of fortune all season really. Nufc.com had it down spot on - said luck runs out. We've had plenty and that was the game it ran out on. Inevitable really.

That aswell, but they look more dangerous already. Clearly shifted their stance in games. That said, I still say they were there for the taking when we played them. Our approach to the game was criminal and they capitalised.

It wasn't much of a gamble because they would have gone down if they hadn't acted. 100% believe this Spot on, they headed into oblivion with good old Marty. however this upturn is remarkably similar to when Marty first arrived Few of my mackem mates at work reckon this aswell like, say they were 100% gone. I actually thought they would have scraped over the line but I don't watch them on a weekly basis like them. They also say they would have been beaten opponents before a ball was kicked in the derby, no matter how bad we were. The main thing is that Di Canio has them attacking at least and looking to score. An attribute highly rare under MON.

Sounds decent that. What the hell actually goes on on the training ground would be a one I ask.

Sunderland got rid of the negativity within the club when they sacked the manager, we haven't done that. I saw it as a gamble more than anything. Admittedly it looks to have worked for them.

The corner statistic is becoming ridiculous now like.

Yeh, he's got a lot to answer for anyway.

Nothing to do with formations there is more to do with football than formations..... Its due to how little movement and how the players are completely and utterly shackled by Pardew's tactics. We never have more than a couple of a players in the box at a time, that is the reason we struggle to create we are always too deep and trying to cross to two players who have no aerial power in the box and just watching the ball come back at us time and again. http://i71.servimg.com/u/f71/16/55/20/10/nufc10.png Out of all that playing in our own half is the key reason why we struggle to create and score goals, the formation is irrelevant what is relevant how ever is the tactics and mentality of the manager. Everton and Liverpool hardly have bigger and stronger squads but what they do have vastly superior coaches. I know that man and I agree with you. What i'm basically saying that no-one is exempt from blame. But as the games pass it's becoming more and more on the managers head.

It's absolutely no doubt that Pardew should be getting better out of the players he's got available. The Europa league may have had an effect to a degree, but that doesn't excuse the baffling lack of ability to even perform the basics at times and that's a continuing worry. Nor does it excuse his strange tactics and one dimensional approach to games. The players seem ok with him but it's very debatable wether he can truly take us forward next season. One big weakness for me is the way Pardew has responded to criticism. When he first came he always seemed to portray himself decent in the press with what he said - it's like now he's gone the total opposite. No doubt in my mind that getting us 5th made him far cockier. Undoubtedly the squad was two thin initially to compete with the bloated fixture list and combine that with the aforementioned issues it was a horrible mixture. His increasingly tiresome interviews are wearing thin and they hardly help matters. The Sunderland match was basically our season in microcosm. Despite the worries growing over Pardew, the players have done little to help themselves imho. The likes of Gutierrez & Tiote have been consistently poor, whilst other players have drifted in and out. Professional and experienced players who should be performing better than they are, no matter what formation we use. No one really seems to want to take responsibility on the pitch. I predicted 10th at the start of the campaign. I thought we greatly overachieved last season, and with the squad we had with more fixtures I knew it would quite a difficult slog. However I never anticipated a season long spectacle of bland football and shocking away form, and most defiantly not fighting for survival.

Load of nonsense. There's a fair few of us not defending Pardew in any way who also think the players are heavily to blame.