Sean

Absolutely agree mate. I mean there's a complete lack of evidence that the "takeover" ever got past even the most preliminary of stages but still, it's almost certainly complete now if you really think about it.

Does nobody find it even slightly strange that as Rafa was refusing to sign the contract, a few days later this takeover gossip suddenly appears? I know lots will say its a conspiracy. Ashley has been trying his best to sell us for the best part of 10 years. Nobody has matched his value or if they did they didn't have the cash. Come on man Look at the bigger picture. Ashley has known about this 'takeover' since before April 17th (proof of funds supposedly sent), probably long before then, so why bother pretending to try to sign Rafa up? Surely at this stage we can discount Mike Ashley PR conspiracies? It seems like the only question here is whether the takeover goes through or not. I'd be far more inclined to believe this was a publicity stunt from BZG. There are far more signs pointing to this than there is it being an Ashley cuntcoction. It would make less sense for him to not offer Rafa anything, proof of funds or not. If this is the case, then you'd think Ashley would have come out and said so - unless it's nice and convenient for him to have these stories floating around? Anyway, for all we know the buyers may be for real, but Ashley leaked the interest to the press when he did. We don't really know anything concrete in regards to this wholly predictable affair this mooted takeover has become.

Does nobody find it even slightly strange that as Rafa was refusing to sign the contract, a few days later this takeover gossip suddenly appears? I know lots will say its a conspiracy. Ashley has been trying his best to sell us for the best part of 10 years. Nobody has matched his value or if they did they didn't have the cash. Come on man Look at the bigger picture. Ashley has known about this 'takeover' since before April 17th (proof of funds supposedly sent), probably long before then, so why bother pretending to try to sign Rafa up?

Can't see many committing at the moment. They will. Yep, they always do.

Of course without this story surfacing, he'd have been forced to give Rafa a contract and sign a load of players just so people on the internet wouldn't get the hump for an extra three weeks. Do you still believe Ashley's role in this is over as he has signed a sale and purchase agreement? Or have you realised that absolutely nowhere and no-one has even claimed such a thing yet.

”NUFC fear Rafa Benitez could let his contact run down and leave the club in crisis.” Fuck right off. This is the sort of shit I've been expecting...trying to pin the blame on Rafa. Wankers.

It does seem a bit coincidental they had a cameraman hiding in the bushes. Bit like the Staveley meal, they were clearly tipped off. Especially at the start of June. Exactly. What is the purpose of it? Just to piss Rafa off even more by letting him know how fucking snakey this lot are is my guess.

It does seem a bit coincidental they had a cameraman hiding in the bushes. Bit like the Staveley meal, they were clearly tipped off.

What if Rafa asked Ashley at that meeting (the one just before the takeover rumours started) to prove his trustworthiness (I know ) by starting to sign the players Rafa wants before his contract runs out? That would seem a wise move if you were negotiating with someone you know would go back on his word.

Its not helping when the Bin Zayed Group and the media in Dubai are so certain its going to happen. Agreed. I had assumed they had showed proof of funds. Now I’m not so sure. It's strange really, if they provided proof of funds April 23rd (or around that date) surely they have had time to complete the owners and directors test (or the so called fit and proper process ) by now. Unless Ashley has stopped communicating with them or pulled some other trick? Mike Ashley starts the fit and proper persons process, not the buying group. As to your other post, the media are pestering them every single day about the takeover, it's no surprise that they gave them a token comment but all of this has already been explained to you so I'm wasting my time. :lol: Where the fuck did I say they had to start it themselves? It makes no fucking difference who sends off the form. So tell me why they haven't had time since April to actually buy us. Or just keep replying with completely irrelevant points if you like.

Its not helping when the Bin Zayed Group and the media in Dubai are so certain its going to happen. Agreed. I had assumed they had showed proof of funds. Now I’m not so sure. It's strange really, if they provided proof of funds April 23rd (or around that date) surely they have had time to complete the owners and directors test (or the so called fit and proper process ) by now. Unless Ashley has stopped communicating with them or pulled some other trick?

Its not helping when the Bin Zayed Group and the media in Dubai are so certain its going to happen. It's another red flag for me. Surely they'd just shut the fuck up and complete the deal if they are going to? Or even release factual statements that enlighten us fans as to what stage they are at (rather than confuse everyone). The fact they say things like "all good" or whatever and "the so called fit and proper process" should also ring alarm bells surely.

How's your asking 5000 for a 500 pound car theory coming along? Get back to me when you understand the difference between a theory and a metaphor. If you seriously think Ashley has been an active and serious seller for years then be my quest but I think you find yourself pretty alone in that corner. Because nobody has matched his price, not rocket science but seems a bit hard for you to understand. Unbelievably naive. It's incredibly naive and it just shows some people will believe pretty much anything Ashley wants.

:lol: Poor Mike!! He's clearly tried so hard too. 10 years of trying to sell us? And nobody until now has matched his valuation it's not rocket science you know Well, seeing as after 10 years he finally has his valuation met then we can celebrate new owners now can't we? Why do I have a feeling it's not that simple.

:lol: Poor Mike!! He's clearly tried so hard too. 10 years of trying to sell us?

Who the fuck would want us but not Rafa? If they don't fancy Rafa then it's an ominous sign going forward. If it's media lies, why? Maybe so people start debating which manager in the world they would have here given the choice, while Rafa's contract runs down?

I'm not saying these lot are fake but I'm pretty sure Kenyon was. He didn't have anywhere near the ability to raise the money for one. Two, he wrote that lovely letter to 'Mike' thanking him for making it so easy (hard?) to do a deal, and telling us fans that he was in the process of buying us, even though he must have known by that stage he wasn't. Either he was just plain fucking stupid or he was a plant. And lets face it, why would Ashley take someone who hasn't got a pot to piss in so seriously?

10 years of this shit:

Or, if you look at Caulkins tweets, they know next to nothing and have been hammered because of their bullshit. They’ve no decided t stay quiet. No comment from the club is the most significant thing It's really not significant at all. Previous "takeovers" went on for months before Ashley came out to call them time wasters etc. While this one goes on Rafas contract is running down and we are completely failing to prepare for the coming season. Caulkin is sceptical, as we all should be. We're a shambles again but everyones too giddy about the thought of new ownership to care. Actually wasn’t it Ashley that started the kenyon one when he went on sky and said they were as far as it’s been. Point being he didn't rubbish it straight away. He lets them run their course for a while. The sky news takeover interview came out the blue apart from one sky news story in September. Ashley didn’t rubbish it. He said it was happening Said it was happening = he lied as usual. And whether he stays silent or fans the takeover flames is irrelevant, my point was that he doesn't rubbish the rumours straight away. And you say you can't deal with stupid Theres no conspiracy either. Either he wants to sell, in which case he'll do a deal. Or he doesn't really want to sell, in which case he won't sell (like previously). So the fact the club have said nothing yet = takeover's as good as done?

Or, if you look at Caulkins tweets, they know next to nothing and have been hammered because of their bullshit. They’ve no decided t stay quiet. No comment from the club is the most significant thing It's really not significant at all. Previous "takeovers" went on for months before Ashley came out to call them time wasters etc. While this one goes on Rafas contract is running down and we are completely failing to prepare for the coming season. Caulkin is sceptical, as we all should be. We're a shambles again but everyones too giddy about the thought of new ownership to care. Actually wasn’t it Ashley that started the kenyon one when he went on sky and said they were as far as it’s been. Point being he didn't rubbish it straight away. He lets them run their course for a while.

Or, if you look at Caulkins tweets, they know next to nothing and have been hammered because of their bullshit. They’ve no decided t stay quiet. No comment from the club is the most significant thing It's really not significant at all. Previous "takeovers" went on for months before Ashley came out to call them time wasters etc. While this one goes on Rafas contract is running down and we are completely failing to prepare for the coming season. Caulkin is sceptical, as we all should be. We're a shambles again but everyones too giddy about the thought of new ownership to care. Caulkin may be sceptical but he even admits that things are going on behind the scenes. They have previously (Staveley's bid for one), but Ashley has had no real interest in selling. We don't know what his intentions are this time, but to give him the benefit of doubt after his history would be foolish I feel.

Or, if you look at Caulkins tweets, they know next to nothing and have been hammered because of their bullshit. They’ve no decided t stay quiet. No comment from the club is the most significant thing It's really not significant at all. Previous "takeovers" went on for months before Ashley came out to call them time wasters etc. While this one goes on Rafas contract is running down and we are completely failing to prepare for the coming season. Caulkin is sceptical, as we all should be. We're a shambles again but everyones too giddy about the thought of new ownership to care.

They wouldn't, but you'd think the Bin Zayed Group would seeing as they have been so adamant to the press that they are for real and are buying us. All they have released is a vague statement so I think it's safe to assume they haven't reached that stage yet. :lol: Aye, no bother, they will just live stream the whole thing. Also, their statements weren't vague. :lol: So fill me in on the minute details then...what stage are they at exactly? I know people really want this to happen, but let's wait and see what happens eh. 22 days left of Rafa's contract, and no sign of this being sorted soon.

They wouldn't, but you'd think the Bin Zayed Group would seeing as they have been so adamant to the press that they are for real and are buying us. All they have released is a vague statement so I think it's safe to assume they haven't reached that stage yet.

Twatish thing to say, tbh. Because everyone else is being so complimentary about Joselu?