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Fucking BT, they've lost the pictures for nearly 5 minutes now

Bayern vs Dortmund in the semi final of the German cup tonight, should be good. Would love to see Dortmund win it

I still think you're wrong but I do feel a bit sorry for basically calling you an idiot

No that never happened. I said Robben in better than him

Aye Messi is a massive outlier in every single diagram

No they are the ones who watch the games and don't just check the stats to see who scored more against Eibar or Almeria

Honestly don't know how anybody who has watched them both play over the years could think Ronaldo is better. Don't know if Froggy is massively biased or just knows nothing about football

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Probably spends about 100 pounds a week

Messi is absolutely miles better than Ronaldo. Tell me one way in which Ronaldo is a better player. Messi is better at almost everything by a mile. I posted this article during the world cup but it is worth putting up again. Please read this Froggy http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lionel-messi-is-impossible/ This is hyperbole and pretty much cements Froggy's point. Just read the article, Messi is miles better at almost everything important

Aye, Messi is better at dribbling, passing, creating, shooting, basically everything that matters for a player in their position

Read the article froggy

Messi is absolutely miles better than Ronaldo. Tell me one way in which Ronaldo is a better player. Messi is better at almost everything by a mile. I posted this article during the world cup but it is worth putting up again. Please read this Froggy http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lionel-messi-is-impossible/

No he has less assists than Messi but it's close enough. Anyway, goals and assists aren't the only things that matter in football. Messi is so good at dropping back into midfield and picking out a pass

De Gea probably. Matic is not better than Busquets, Modric,Kroos at a minimum. Hazard, not a hope unless you play him totally out of position. Maybe Ivanovic and Terry, not sure. Dani Alves has been very good lately after a poor start. Lot of competition for Terry too. Godin, Miranda, Pepe, Ramos

That's not the point, though, Messi's strong on the ball. Cabella's extremely weak on it. He's still dispossessed more often than Cabella (1,9 per game). Granted he probably gets far more on the ball than Cabella. It's just that Cabella's stat doesn't sound that terrible to me. Because Messi loses it when he runs at people. Cabella loses it a lot when he is going nowhere but just gets muscled off the ball, which never happens Messi

Sorry but there is a right and wrong answer. Messi is a much better player. There is a reason why Messi is often called the best player of all time while Ronaldo has never once been called the best player of all time. If you look at both of them play, Ronaldo is a poacher, an exceptionally good one obviously while Messi is involved in everything as well as being as good a goalscorer as Ronaldo. I usually don't mind people having different opinions but Messi is clearly better than Ronaldo in almost every way. Fucking hell. I agree that Messi is probably the best football player ever but this is just nonsense. He's no more a poacher than Messi and there's probably a lot more variance in Ronaldo's goals than Messi's. A poacher as in doesn't get involved in the build up at all and stays forward. This is why he is generally anonymous against Atletico, they cut out the space up top and he has no impact on the game. He is capable of creating goals as seen the other night in setting up Hernandez but rarely bothers to get involved in the build up play because that would take away from his personal goals tally

Ronaldo is better at penalties tbf

Well they're wrong. I'd love somebody to give me a reason why Ronaldo is better because I can't think of any

Sorry but there is a right and wrong answer. Messi is a much better player. There is a reason why Messi is often called the best player of all time while Ronaldo has never once been called the best player of all time. If you look at both of them play, Ronaldo is a poacher, an exceptionally good one obviously while Messi is involved in everything as well as being as good a goalscorer as Ronaldo. I usually don't mind people having different opinions but Messi is clearly better than Ronaldo in almost every way.

How many times does Cabella get on the ball compared to those players?

So that's why Ronaldo does so well in major international tournaments Ronaldo has carried portugal tons of times, Where was messi in the final ? Portugal didn't get past the group stages mate with Ronaldo missing loads of chances against Ghana iirc. And don't give me this shit that the rest of the Portugal team were basically part timers. They very nearly got to a Euro 2012 final two years before. Also a very limited USA qualified from their group. I presume you are talking about the Sweden playoff when you talk of great Ronaldo performances for Portugal. The only reason they needed a playoff is because they couldn't finish ahead of Russia, who were also very limited. Surely if Ronaldo was always so good for Portugal, he could've guided them to victory over Russia

Ronaldo is clearly less complete like. He's as good a goal scorer as Messi and Messi is better at every single other thing that is important for the positions they play

Coutinho ffs. Also don't think Costa should be there