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So is the argument now that PIF have knowingly facilitated the murder of Khashoggi?

Rafa might have somewhat more of a direct line to the buyers but right now the only updates will be coming from Mike Ashley’s legal team. It’s anyone’s guess what will happen. I’m not holding my breath as far as Rafa is concerned Bit silly thinking Rafa's future is in any way indicative of where we stand with a multi million pound takeover by one of the richest sovereign wealth funds in the world. He may well be their first choice but I'm confident they'd be confident of having a plan b.

The arbritation case agaisnt the PL not something positive or are you a closet optimist who needs constant reassurances? Well for me I’ll wait for the outcome of arbitration before I decide if it’s positive. If it fails it’s not exactly positive is it? I don’t particularly feel having this hangover out heads all season has really helped either I think others - myself included - are taking the fact that the club are pursuing arbritation to the extent that other potential purchasers are being put off engaging Ashley, as a positive and reason to be optimistic. So unless you're of the opinion that the PL have acted appropriately, then I'm unsure why there wouldn't be a tinge of optimism or excitement for how this case may pan out, but then again that's the nature of optimism isn't it? Fair point. I’m genuinely of the view that the club will win arbitration or come to an agreement but I do think relegation will kill any takeover I just don’t see how it wouldn’t Yeh I agree, having to think about the possibility of relegation is such an uneccassaary ballache but very newcastle like tbh. Basically, I cling on to this thread because the alternative will be the end of the club for me. That’s fair enough. I appreciate that. Can’t see me having the stomach for another season under Ashley Aye thats exactly where I'm at

The arbritation case agaisnt the PL not something positive or are you a closet optimist who needs constant reassurances? Well for me I’ll wait for the outcome of arbitration before I decide if it’s positive. If it fails it’s not exactly positive is it? I don’t particularly feel having this hangover out heads all season has really helped either I think others - myself included - are taking the fact that the club are pursuing arbritation to the extent that other potential purchasers are being put off engaging Ashley, as a positive and reason to be optimistic. So unless you're of the opinion that the PL have acted appropriately, then I'm unsure why there wouldn't be a tinge of optimism or excitement for how this case may pan out, but then again that's the nature of optimism isn't it? Fair point. I’m genuinely of the view that the club will win arbitration or come to an agreement but I do think relegation will kill any takeover I just don’t see how it wouldn’t Yeh I agree, having to think about the possibility of relegation is such an uneccassaary ballache but very newcastle like tbh. Basically, I cling on to this thread because the alternative will be the end of the club for me.

The arbritation case agaisnt the PL not something positive or are you a closet optimist who needs constant reassurances? Well for me I’ll wait for the outcome of arbitration before I decide if it’s positive. If it fails it’s not exactly positive is it? I don’t particularly feel having this hangover out heads all season has really helped either I think others - myself included - are taking the fact that the club are pursuing arbritation to the extent that other potential purchasers are being put off engaging Ashley, as a positive and reason to be optimistic. So unless you're of the opinion that the PL have acted appropriately, then I'm unsure why there wouldn't be a tinge of optimism or excitement for how this case may pan out, but then again that's the nature of optimism isn't it?

The arbritation case agaisnt the PL not something positive or are you a closet optimist who needs constant reassurances?

A new appointment that isn't the consortium's first choice makes even less sense than sticking with Bruce. By most accounts, Rafa is the consortiums first choice and we already how that would pan out.

Think the wider point is if arbitration is about whether the OD test was done correctly, then any outcome which would favour a compensation claim would also support the takeover going through. "You can have your £300m compensation, but we're still not approving the sale" Doesn't quite stack up, does it.

ASM will keep Bruce in the job

20% off everything at SD.

3 wins on the bounce will get us on the right track and out of this mess. Oh wait.

Don't think there should ever be any doubt that this is still on.

Bruce Allshitey

Victim of a slack training regime.

Think Gazza (Zidane) vs Scholes (Iniesta) Separated by that little extra touch of class and above else that touch of genius rarely found in 99.9% of others. Zidane had that, Iniesta almost had it... that’s the difference IMO. I just don't see it, Zidane had a touch of elegance about him that maybe Iniesta didn't, but player for player and achievement for achievement I don't understand how there can be such a disparity in how they're rated, furthermore, Iniesta was insanely consistent, for both club and country. #

Why is Iniesta never mentioned in these lists? What was it about Zidane that made him such a significantly better player than Iniesta?

Won't quote the article but this looks like it's been completely coordinated with the club and buyers. There is just too much information there from the NCSL guys for it not to be.

It's actually tragic how weird you are.

To be fair I don't think he was trying to be inconspicuous. What he said is right though, the consortium have publicly announced they are no longer interested. If they were interested again, they could say so. That they haven't should be a wake up call to some in here. PIF have announced they are no longer interested not "the consortium." Can anyone think of a reason why Ashley would engage a QC who specialises in International public law if PIF weren't still involved? I can't.

There are legal safeguard preventing you from incriminating yourself and handing over evidence that does so. What are those legal safeguards Stiffy?

My take is the consortium don't have grounds to take the PL to court as it's still technically under review and hasn't been rejected, however a 3rd party taking them to court would expose the legal frailties of the PL's position which leaves them in the situation of having their hand forced into a decision, or to have their dirty laundry aired out in public.

This guy.

Other than leave the league or create their own league where could they go with this? At the end of the day they need the votes of the other 14 to get any traction on any of their own ideas.

they don't give two s***s about football culture anywhere let alone english football culture, they're American venture capitalists they just care about money and are annoyed the have to share with "little" teams instead of just taking it all and everybody else should just be grateful for the exposure Yep, I dont think they expected this reaction from the fans, hence why they've rejected their own proposal.

They've totally misjudged English football culture here. That is the only explanation I can think of for this shitshow.