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Do people really see him as the man who took Bournemouth down though? I really don't think they do.

With managers it's not necessarily about better or worse, it's about suitable or not suitable. Look at Moyes, Pellegrini, Mourinho etc. Sometimes managers are a bad fit and it doesn't work despite being great elsewhere. Howe is absolutely without question a better manager than Steve Bruce, that goes without saying, but that's the lowest of bars to clear and is he the right fit for this club with the players it has, in the position it's in? I don't this he is at all and I didn't think Fonseca was either FWIW. Who knows who it'll be now, but Emery or Rafa were the type we needed imo.

At this point Howe might not even take it. It's absolutely fair to say that the last two days have been a shitshow like.

Just got back from my meeting to see this. What an absolute shit show. Never change Newcastle.

Charnley.

I have to say I don't think it's all that important that the styles of Emery and Howe are totally different. The philosophy at the moment is clearly 'stay in the PL' and the style of play is probably, or at least should be, secondary to things like win %, success in the PL, getting the best out of poor players, etc etc. If we were a comfortably mid-table team it would be more important and I'd expect someone like Fonseca to have been more in the running.

According to Caulkin he's doing the contract negotiations.

I don't think you can possibly blame a manager in his position having reservations about coming into this situation like.

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Have to say I think Howe would take us down like and that's not really a criticism of him, I just think the type of players we have and the quality of the other teams in the league means that there's no obviously rubbish teams aside from us and Norwich.

Top managers like Xavi... Literally the first time I've seen Xavi or Low mentioned by anyone.

If you can't handle me at my Brighton, you don't deserve me at my Newcastle

Balague is an absolute gobshite, mind. I always forget that. How many times has he been on SSN saying something will happen and it doesn't.

Yeah I can't imagine Balague putting that out unless he's been told, in which case leaking the story like that yesterday was daft.

The only time tapping up was ever a thing was Chelsea with Ashley Cole wasn't it? It felt like a huge thing at the time until you found it happens all the time.

Hopefully there were football people involved and not just lucking out on the right choice. Every time I see Martinez mentioned I grimace

Fernandes doesn't seem as prominent as I've seen him before, but admittedly that wasn't loads and yeah looking at his goals and assists I'm probably wrong on that one. Sancho just isn't really playing, the front 3 he's in now is nothing like the one he thrived in at Dortmund and doesn't seem set up to work in the same way. Seems a bit weird when they apparently chased him for 3 years

Stop talking about one of the world's biggest clubs in the other games thread everyone, this Man United fan who regularly posts on our Newcastle forum thinks that it's them that should be irrelevant to us.

You're the one on the irrelevant Newcastle forum pal

Had a quick look and a fair few as usual don't rate him. The moment this falls through and he'll be one of the top managers out there

Yeah it's Ronaldo but saying that's that and him being in the team is only a positive thing and doesn't have any downsides elsewhere - like not being able to press from the front, fewer goals from other players, Fernandes's reduced influence, Greenwood not playing in the middle, Sancho not getting a look in - seems a bit simplistic when those things are a reality and he's having to bail them out against teams they should be thrashing. He's just obviously far, far too good to not start, but a better team would be using him less and reaping all the rewards imo

I think the whole "and people say he's a problem for this Man United team!?!" is a bit simplistic like, you could easily argue that his insane goal contribution and him bailing them out is just papering over the problem and that good teams will continue to beat them. The longer they delude themselves and OGS stays there the better.

Crazy how much he's papering over the cracks.

I mean you're all doing the equivalent of checking your ex's tragic Instagram posts about you while you're being noshed off by Margot Robbie like.