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This latest bit of 'fake news' has certainly caused a lot of concern and upset on this forum. The inevitable approval of the takeover is not far away now, and the more "rubbish" that is invented and quoted as fact by reporters, the more certain I remain of approval happening . . and SOON. From the main thread Manorpark

Lurking

It's supposed to be a positive thread I didn't say where the bottle was yesterday ;)

Well Champagne back in the fridge for tomorrow

Feel physically sick each time I check this thread

Although I claimed the contrary a few days ago, it is true that the report will NOT be published if either side appeals, as it will be rendered incomplete and potentially false. It's very likely that parts of it will be leaked publicly by the Qatari side though, as it's will undoubtedly rule against KSA. The appeal procedure could last 60-90 days. The WTO site is very informative and functional. https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/tif_e/disp1_e.htm There it is in black and white And off around the houses we go again

So another week, none the wiser but at least we have to closer to a resolution one way or the other, So bored in the house

Don't we all just want to be able to hope for better things for the club we love, regardless of who owns us or how much money we have spend, Ashley extinguished all hope

So confused, please help an old soul who not as bright as he used to be, are we positive or negative now?

There's a path through this that is anti Ashley and anti Saudi that gets us through the other side with some integrity. The soul of the club is as important as the success of the club. If you don't believe that then what are we doing? What path is that then? Fight Ashley, protest against Saudi involvement in the club. Protect the soul of NUFC. You all keep saying we are special but have rolled over and stuck your legs in the air for the first billionaire that's got a chance of prising us from Ashley's grip. We are special we should be fighting to remain so. If we don't then what's the point? Yes lets have a mock funeral and not eat the pies at half time and oh .... There is no soul left to preserve 13 years of Ashley proved that . Then what's the point? What's your answer then? Fan ownership? There's a plenty of stops between being Saudi or Ashley owned. I'm idealistic not naïve, I want someone with ambition that cares that doesn't have blood on their hands. Is it realistic probably not but does it mean we shouldn't fight for it f*** no. Where have these stops been the last 13 years you talk about ? The same support the team not the regime bullshit that held us back during the Ashley era. Don’t think so I haven’t been in 11 years, so try again. You say there’s stops between Ashley and Saudis. Like I said your naive, where have these stops been the last 13 years ? And where will these stops be waiting to pay 300 million in the middle of a global pandemic, with the worlds economy f#%cked. I’m anything but support the team and not the regime brigade, but what I am is a realist. Your alternative to the Saudis is another long period of Ownership under Ashley unfortunately. That's what it boils down to for me. First step to getting rid of Ashley is getting rid of Ashley - I'm looking no further ahead than that until it comes around. The first step to getting rid of Saudi ownership is also probably getting rid of Ashley. My sentiments exactly, I may not have much time left :angel:

There's a path through this that is anti Ashley and anti Saudi that gets us through the other side with some integrity. The soul of the club is as important as the success of the club. If you don't believe that then what are we doing? What path is that then? Fight Ashley, protest against Saudi involvement in the club. Protect the soul of NUFC. You all keep saying we are special but have rolled over and stuck your legs in the air for the first billionaire that's got a chance of prising us from Ashley's grip. We are special we should be fighting to remain so. If we don't then what's the point? Yes lets have a mock funeral and not eat the pies at half time and oh .... There is no soul left to preserve 13 years of Ashley proved that . Then what's the point? What's your answer then? Fan ownership? There's a plenty of stops between being Saudi or Ashley owned. I'm idealistic not naïve, I want someone with ambition that cares that doesn't have blood on their hands. Is it realistic probably not but does it mean we shouldn't fight for it f*** no. Where have these stops been the last 13 years you talk about ? The same support the team not the regime bullshit that held us back during the Ashley era. Don’t think so I haven’t been in 11 years, so try again. You say there’s stops between Ashley and Saudis. Like I said your naive, where have these stops been the last 13 years ? And where will these stops be waiting to pay 300 million in the middle of a global pandemic, with the worlds economy f#%cked. I’m anything but support the team and not the regime brigade, but what I am is a realist. Your alternative to the Saudis is another long period of Ownership under Ashley unfortunately. That's what it boils down to for me. First step to getting rid of Ashley is getting rid of Ashley - I'm looking no further ahead than that until it comes around. The first step to getting rid of Saudi ownership is also probably getting rid of Ashley. My sentiments exactly, I may not have much tie left :angel:

Clutching at straws but no news is good news

No it won't. Nope it'll trundle on with even less hope than before, and then whoosh the sky will be the limit, only problem being ill have kicked the bucket

No. Absolutely none. Thank you sir

Well that's another 4 pages I haven't bothered to read, did I miss any takeover news?

Somethings never change, expectant faces at St James Park 1905

I don't click on Evening Chronicle links on Twitter but looks like they are regurgitating the same old shite again

Its back the other thread that is

I'm glad I have that affect on you. ;D

Made my self a little Robin avatar, Robins make me feel positive where as with Magpies it depends on the numbers

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Threads there both gone Sorry the positive ones still there

Threads there both gone

Absolute nonsense thread. Things like this shouldn't just be accepted and rushed through just to help the mental health of Newcastle fans Absolute nonsense post. No it wont change nowt and they won't be concerned about nufc fans mental health, but they should be concerned with an owner taking fans money for no reason and not giving them any clue about whats going on. I understand your reasons behind not wanting it to happen etc but not everything the 'pro takeover fans' say is bollocks. That lads most definitely bringing to light a few things that need to be said with regards to staff and refunds. They should be concerned with the current c*** of an owner taking the p*ss out of fans and staff. 100%. This is nowt to do with being anti or pro the takeover. Takeovers of companies take time , you can't just rush things through especially when possibly important information has just come to light, regarding the piracy thing. If they give a timeline of say 2 weeks, then what if more information becomes available in 13 days time that could affect the decision? But you are anti-takeover by PIF, let's get that out there just to clarify. I don't think anybody needs that clarified but thanks anyway have you ever been involved with an acquisition of a company? I have and right now, if this was not a football club company, legally following everything that has passed to this point in terms of the sale/purchase of what is a legal fully registered and recognised trading business enterprise, this is a done deal. No-one can pull out, even if monies owed to all parties were still to be transferred to close any holding account and therefore financially complete the deal at each end, the legal fact of the matter is that again, as of now, as of how far along this is, it’s a done deal. It’s a done deal because the buyer’s money has been paid (as per whatever any agreements exist between the two etc.) into an account, and that money is locked in now. Again the buyer can’t just withdraw that money and the seller can’t just return it or not accept it. Not unless both mutually agree to terminate everything and both sides would have to do that, one or the other cannot just pull out, they would face legal proceedings which for example if Ashley decided to withdraw, could see him lose the business full stop and even pay them the actual agreed price to get out of it. Likewise the seller could end up having to pay up the full agreed price as compensation and end up with nothing. Of course no-one knows the stipulations and clauses in any detail which could see both seller or buyer allowed to break off from the deal mutually or forego a security deposit etc. If this was a none football club business, however, even without the transfer of funds at the end of all parties, it would to all intents and purposes be a done deal. Legally as a business it’s a done deal, even without the transfer of funds which of course would follow and conclude everything officially and leave nothing to be withdrawn, rejected, opposes or contested. Right now, it can’t be concluded officially as a legal football club entity as well as a legal business entity, funds transferred or not, until the PL approve the takeover in compliance with their own TOS that legally grants the business it’s status to operate as a football club in the PL’s competition. If they don’t approve the takeover, legally, as business, they will still own NUFC or can’t be stopped owning the club as a business and can still apply to register to operate as a football club or retain their status as a football club with the FA and EFL, which legally they can’t be denied or can be revoked. And if I’m correct in thinking, membership as such grants all football clubs who are members with the right to participate in any competition the FA/FL grant licence to operate under them which the PL must comply with in order to run their own competition as long as member clubs also comply. As such any Football Association member club can enter any competition/win promotion if they adhere to the TOS of those competitions which is based solely on sporting, spectator, stadium, safety, policing, stewarding and the ability to financially support putting out a team to fulfil all fixture requirements in general for all of the FA/FL licenced competitions. In short there are so many legal ways around things and as a business, legally as things stand, this is a done deal, only because this is also a football club requiring additional approval to also operate as a football club in the competition ran by the PL, legally, it’s not a done deal on that side. It would take an unprecedented ruling by the PL to deny NUFC’s legal status as a PL club and in ways that 100% couldn’t be contested and overruled which would also legally challenge the status of NUFC operating as registered and recognised business entity which again, right now, Ashley no longer owns because he’s sold it as a business and now it rests with the PL as to whether they will also legally own a PL football club. Every challenge, opposition, red flag, raised question mark, ethical, moral, financial, individually as persons involved, criteria, the PL has to go over with a fine tooth comb, and no matter what, they will eventually have no legal or sporting, financial or business basis in which to deny NUFC’s PL status as per their own TOS, unless they rewrite them and force every PL club to satisfy and risk losing their licence to run their competition under the FA who grants any football club great and small, professional or amateur, in the entire football pyramid, providing they adhere to their TOS, the right and status to enter/participate in every one of their competitions or any they licence to. I personally think the checks have been done, funds have or are being transferred to all parties involved and the only thing delaying any official announcement is to allow the PL to focus on restarting the season first and when that’s done every party involved will have had enough time to work on their own individual PR pieces and can also release media Q&As that they can all answer in unison in terms of any questions about privacy, dead widows letters, amnesty international, human rights issues and so on. The PL want this as much as we do, they want their money, they want another contender and an extra European super club to relegate rivals from Spain and Italy, they want an injection of big spending in the transfer market and want above all else, for them and anyone else to come and buy their product and no-one elses. I recommend everyone ignores any scare mongering or hyperbole in the press who no f*** all, be patient, relax and be confident that legally as a business, this is at the stage now where it’s a done deal, where legally as a football club, there is no other conclusion, and that’s what will soon be confirmed. And we will only find out when the official site says say, in black and white. :smitten: :smitten:

:smitten: Whenever I read a Yorkie post I feel like it perfectly sums up how I feel about most discussions on this board, just a s*** ton more eloquently than I ever could.