TeddySAFC

Your hatred of Sunderland is actually mental

Yeah, The Mowbray one is quite a good debate to be honest. He was brought in as a safe pair of hands after Neil walked to basically ensure we didn't go down, Nobody could have forecasted how well he ended up doing with the players he had at his disposal, He has certainly earned himself another crack at it next season. On the other hand it's been clear since his appointment that he was a short term measure due to unforeseen circumstances, Mowbray admitted this himself. The board would also be daft not to look into the possibility of getting a better manager if one was available but there is always a risk in making change, I much prefer them being proactive than the usual reactive shite we have been used to in previous years. You also have to consider that Mowbray only has one Championship promotion on his CV which was over 15 years ago, so there is no real evidence to suggest he would get us promoted if he's given next season to achieve it. I personally think he will go and they will go after someone they believe can kick us onto the next level. The owner is big on youth, taking calculated risk, technology and development and I think he will have his own man earmarked to follow that blueprint.

Disappointing end to a fantastic season, Simply bullied at Luton and we couldn't stand up to them with the players we had available. Onwards and upwards, Looks like Jobe Bellingham is signing for 3M according to Fabrizio Romano, Hopefully more quality through the door and we can target the top 6 again next year with a fit squad.

I take it you missed the post where I said "I doubt O'Nien could make it in the Premier League", then. Seems quite a few on here can't read.

How has he pulled him out the shit? He's diluted his shares drastically at every opportunity to the point now he only owns 9%, Donald is now on the verge of buying Eastleigh again so he will be gone imminently. Methven is already out the door.

Odd that, as every single manager that's had him here has had nothing but praise for him. One of, If not the first name on the team-sheet every single week. I guess you know better than them though.

O'Nien has been fantastic to be fair, I doubt he can make it in the Prem but it won't be for lack of effort.

Donald has basically nowt to do with the club now, He owns a mere 9% which is becoming diluted smaller and smaller after every transfer window. KLD has played him like a fiddle.

Why couldn't we do say, a Bournemouth? It's a complete myth that a club has to either accept going down and bank the cash or just bring in an entirely new squad. There is numerous teams that have gone up and stayed up by just making decent signings in-line with how the owners want to run the club.

There's a fair argument to say all of the 'league one clingers' have looked better in the Championship than they did in League One.

I have no idea, For as good a job as he has done, I wouldn't be completely against a new head coach coming in and I think ultimately that's what KLD wants. I think Mowbray was a stop-gap to give a little stability for 18 months and review where we are at.

Probably quite a lot, I'm amazed we are currently in a play off position to be honest considering we struggled to score goals as soon as Simms and Stewart were injured. Saying that, Stewart is twice the player of Simms so his injury has effected us more than any other.

We have three players on loan, Diallo, Michut and Gelhardt Michut is going to be signing permanently as it's a loan with obligation to buy and Gelhardt is only playing because every other striker has been crocked. If we went up (Which I don't think we will anyway) we would be in a good position to get Diallo again and / or get better loans. Why would we need to do a Forest? We don't have 20+ players out of contract. There is absolutely no chance the club would put themselves at a 'massive financial risk' as it's absolute polar opposite of what KLD has opted for since he took over as majority owner and ultimate decision maker.

I don't doubt that either, but it's a complete hypothetical situation as nobody knows how we would recruit over the summer if we somehow got promoted anyway.

Forest won the play offs last year, might stay up this season 2020-21 - Brentford - stayed up and still there 2019-20 - Fulham - Relegated 2018-19 - Villa - stayed up and still there 2017-18 - Fulham - Relegated 2016-17 - Huddersfield - Won play offs and stayed up the following season Shows over the last few seasons that teams that win the play offs have a decent chance of staying up

Whilst I agree it's a poor league in general, It doesn't mean teams that are promoted therefore can't compete at all in the PL. Alot of teams who get promoted end up staying up.

As mentioned in tons of posts before, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and the vast majority of normal fans don't think we have 5 or 6 PL players.

It's incredible in itself we are even talking about a play off position, We have been bang average in half of the games.

Probably a lot of it is down to momentum and how you finish the season, If you get into third by winning your last game having been fighting to stay in the play-offs you are probably in a decent mindset. If you've chased automatics for weeks and still miss out despite comfortably going onto finish third or lower, it probably kills it the other way. I remember us playing Lincoln under Johnson in the playoffs, We were chasing second for ages then only won one of the last nine including not winning at home in any of the last three home games. We ended up finishing fourth on a run of shit form and then got knocked out in the semis. If you sneak 6th and play a team that chased the automatics until the very end you probably have a good chance.

It means if you stick a tenner on you get nowt back.

We need to win the next two which are very winnable but then we would have huge pressure on us to continue that run of form against WBA, Watford and Preston who all have play off aspirations themselves. It would take an incredible run of around 5 wins and a draw from the last 6 to make it and I don't think we are quite good enough to do that with the players we have available.

Even yesterday our play in the final third was shocking, We should have won comfortably but ended up just scraping the win. Stewart has been such a miss, not even just for his goals but he presses from the front, gives you an outlet when you want to knock it long and his hold up play is brilliant, He's no slouch either. We've missed him badly. He's also canny when defending set pieces as we are a team of midgets with the players we have out.

100% - Stewart is brilliant, Just hope he signs a new deal as he would be almost impossible to replace unless we chucked some money at it. We are just too young and naïve I think this season, We have chucked so many points away with last minute goals and what not. There was also two home games that we had against Blackpool and Preston when we had neither Stewart or Simms which would probably have been a different story if they'd been playing.

Absolutely, I wasn't even sure we would survive to be honest but it looks like a few of our players seem more suited to the Championship than the cloggers in League One. We probably need to strengthen through the core of the side over the summer and actually buy some strikers, criminal the way we have been left since January without a proper goalscorer. Looks like Donald is being phased out bit by bit, Can't wait until he's gone for good.

I can't see us making the play-offs, Our home form has been poor all season and we have missed key players for a large chunk of it. Hopefully a few decent signings in the summer and we can give it a real crack next season, very good season regardless all things considered.