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I disagree about the goal, I thought he had a big part in it. Some players react well to harsh treatment. Mou does it all the time and some players properly love him.

Absolutely malding. Plus ad hominem. Maybe you’ve had a few beers idk

Yeah that’s a bad one, not gonna lie. Pendency definitely isn’t the word I was looking for

Exactly. Which is totally fine, I’d call it shaming but other people maybe not. Accountability, whatever you want to call it, the end result is the same.

It doesn’t really, at all. It’s pure pendency. Eddie will have a stern word with him. If he feels ashamed of not putting in the effort, maybe that’s just a bonus

Did you just read first year philosophy yesterday or something? Fucking hell, pulling him up is shaming him on what he’s done?

Of course it is, Tonali is big boy, he can handle it. He needs to know that level of effort is completely unacceptable. Pep pretty much does it publicly, like he did with Phillips. That’s just how it is.

That first sentence doesn’t mean anything tbf. Shaming him/telling him off it’s just semantics. He will be told it’s unacceptable, and he should be. He’s a pro, he can handle it

It’s literally the norm, i don’t see how that’s even remotely controversial. It’s how you keep standards high in elite sporting environments. They aren’t children.

Not publicly no, but he will absolutely pull him up on it, what is the alternative? He’s a well paid professional, if he can’t handle being told he’s done something wrong then he should hang up the boots.

? whatever you think. Call to authority is the dumbest fallacy of all time. If people can’t speak with authority on stuff they actually know, then what’s the point of having any insight into anything at all then is there? I’m telling you that’s what happens, not that I know more about football than anyone else, disco has far more reaching knowledge than me. I’m just telling you that’s what happens. They’ll pull the footage and tell him it’s not acceptable, how that’s controversial I don’t know

Yeah, he will tell him it’s unacceptable, because it patently is at this level, you can’t allow players to give minimum effort like that, not at this level. Tonali is a good player, but there’s absolutely no way he won’t be dressing him down

Yes, mainly because he played football at professional level. If you don’t think that’s getting pulled up in team meetings, dunno what to tell you ?‍♂️. People have been dragged for far less transgressions than that.

Please educate me more on what happens in pro football, I’m sure you know more than me. He will be getting dragged for that, without doubt. Thankfully elite level sport holds people accountable for the stuff they do on the pitch

Lol, they absolutely will be pulling him up on that in analysis. But go off, king ?. I am employed in professional football, unlike you though.

Yes, unforgivable in my eyes. Losing the ball is part of the game, the lack of effort to even close that shot down is a joke. If I was Howe I’d pull that footage and absolutely shame him over that. Unacceptable at any level never mind the elite

It depresses me greatly the death of the 10 in football, absolutely love Riquelme. Just don’t see players like him anymore, sadly.

Not when I reinvent the tactical wheel by bringing in a 10 in the mould of riquelme. Pep won’t see it coming

They had 25 anyway tbf, totally agree with you. Higher XG, better chances, deserved to win the game.

Yeah, not enough of an athlete to be a 6, it’s a waste of what he’s good at.

Martin is legit one of the worst managers about, absurdly dogmatic y football, that goes nowhere

They are definitely targeting Bruno, and we don’t help him by his position. I used to love his passing, so progressive, used to buy fouls well, none of that is happening right now

shooting a man down for having confidence in his opinion, hate to see it

There were moments against villa where our midfield was wide open, it’s only got worse imo