Guest alex Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Van Poncey? Wrong answer. Sorry. He's that really good player isn't he? I just don't see how you could class him as a failure even if you don't particularly rate him. He only cost about 3 or 4m didn't he? I do rate him however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I was, as it happens, having a chat in the pub last night about why no club will (probably..) do in the next ten years what we did in our first season back in the top flight and genuinely take the league by storm playing fantastic football - one of the main reasons (along with CL expansion and money derived from it) was the systematic hoovering up of the best [very] young players these days that wasn't so omnipresent when KK was around. In some ways it's a good thing, and I certainly wouldn't blame Wenger for doing it, but I often think it's a bit of a shame, and Michelle makes a decent point, despite not quite looking at the full picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Van Poncey? Wrong answer. Sorry. He's that really good player isn't he? I just don't see how you could class him as a failure even if you don't particularly rate him. He only cost about 3 or 4m didn't he? I do rate him however. Exactly. He's (imo, obviously) a fantastic player who cost noticibly less than Michael Chopra did this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Van Poncey? Wrong answer. Sorry. He's that really good player isn't he? I just don't see how you could class him as a failure even if you don't particularly rate him. He only cost about 3 or 4m didn't he? I do rate him however. Exactly. He's (imo, obviously) a fantastic player who cost noticibly less than Michael Chopra did this summer. He's a fantastic player and Winga is an all time genius wasting his time masquarading as a football manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Laughing at your own shit jokes is shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Van Persie is an awesome player IMO. Didn't think Sylvain Wilotrd was that bad either, maybe not worth his transfer fee but scored some pretty important goals for the Arse inc. one that won them the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Laughing at your own shit jokes is shit. I'm happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnnyappleseed Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 saw this on an arsenal board http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31663 WENGER'S SENIOR TRANSFER HISTORY 1996-1997 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE Patrick Vieira Milan £3,500,000 14-08-1996 Nicolas Anelka Paris St-G. £500,000 22-02-1997 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Paul Dickov Man City £1,000,000 23-08-1996 Eddie McGoldrick Man City £300,000 25-10-1996 David Hillier Portsmouth £250,000 04-11-1996 Paul Read Wycombe £35,000 17-01-1997 Andy Linighan C Palace £110,000 22-01-1997 John Hartson West Ham £3,300,000 14-02-1997 Net: +£995,000 1997-1998 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE Matthew Upson Luton £2,000,000 10-05-1997 Alex Manninger Graz AK £500,000 03-06-1997 Emmanuel Petit Monaco £2,500,000 04-06-1997 Gilles Grimandi Monaco £2,500,000 04-06-1997 Luis Boa Morte Sporting Lisbon £1,750,000 14-06-1997 Alberto Mendez FC Feucht £250,000 17-06-1997 Marc Overmars Ajax £7,000,000 17-06-1997 Christopher Wreh Monaco £300,000 07-08-1997 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Matthew Rose QPR £500,000 20-05-1997 Paul Merson Middlesbro £4,500,000 07-07-1997 Lee Harper QPR £125,000 09-07-1997 Paul Shaw Millwall £250,000 15-09-1997 Ian Selley Fulham £500,000 17-10-1997 Net: -£10,925,000 1998-1999 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE David Grondin St Etienne £500,000 19-06-1998 Fredrik Ljungberg Halmstads £3,000,000 12-09-1998 Jermaine Pennant Notts Co £2,000,000 08-01-1999 Nwankwo Kanu Inter £4,500,000 15-01-1999 Kaba Diawara Bordeaux £2,500,000 29-01-1999 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Ian Wright West Ham £500,000 13-07-1998 Isaiah Rankin Bradford £1,300,000 13-08-1998 Jamie Day Bournemouth £20,000 03-03-1999 William Huck Bournemouth £50,000 25-03-1999 Net: -£10,630,000 1999-2000 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE Oleg Luzhny Dynamo Kiev £1,800,000 28-05-1999 Stefan Malz 1860 Munich £650,000 24-06-1999 Sylvinho Corinthians £4,000,000 30-06-1999 Davor Suker Real Madrid £500,000 02-08-1999 Thierry Henry Juventus £10,500,000 03-08-1999 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Kaba Diawara Marseille £3,000,000 01-06-1999 Steve Bould Sunderland £500,000 02-07-1999 Jason Crowe Portsmouth £1,000,000 07-07-1999 Dave Livermore Millwall £30,000 02-08-1999 Nicolas Anelka Real Madrid £23,000,000 02-08-1999 Luis Boa Morte Southampton £500,000 25-08-1999 Stephen Hughes Everton £3,000,000 07-03-2000 Net = +£13,580,000 2000-2001 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE Lauren Mallorca £7,200,000 30-05-2000 Robert Pires Marseille £6,000,000 03-07-2000 Sylvain Wiltord Bordeaux £13,000,000 26-08-2000 Igor Stepanovs Skonto Riga £1,000,000 04-09-2000 Danilevicius Lausanne Sports £1,000,000 13-12-2000 Edu Corinthians £6,000,000 16-01-2001 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Tommy Black C Palace £500,000 01-07-2000 Julian Gray C Palace £500,000 01-07-2000 Jay Bothroyd Coventry £1,000,000 13-07-2000 Marc Overmars Barcelona £25,000,000 28-07-2000 Emmanuel Petit Barcelona £5,000,000 28-07-2000 Brian McGovern Norwich £50,000 21-08-2000 Rhys Weston Cardiff £300,000 17-11-2000 Paolo Vernazza Watford £350,000 14-12-2000 Net = -£1,500,000 2001-2002 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE Francis Jeffers Everton £8,000,000 14-06-2001 Van Bronckhorst Rangers £8,500,000 19-06-2001 Richard Wright Ipswich £6,000,000 05-07-2001 Tavlaridis Iraklis Salonika £600,000 19-09-2001 Kolo Toure ASEC Abidjan £150,000 14-02-2002 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Stefan Malz Kaiserslautern £580,000 24-06-2001 Guy Demel B. Dortmund £194,000 25-07-2001 Sylvinho Celta Vigo £3,500,000 31-08-2001 Net = -£18,976,000 2002-2003 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE Pascal Cygan Lille £2,100,000 11-07-2002 Gilberto Silva Atl. Mineiro £4,500,000 07-08-2002 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Alex Manninger Espanyol £960,000 04-07-2002 Richard Wright Everton £3,500,000 24-07-2002 Matthew Upson Birmingham £1,000,000# 22-01-2003 Net = -£1,140,000 2003-2004 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE Philippe Senderos Servette £2,500,000 01-07-2003 Jens Lehmann B. Dortmund £1,000,000 26-07-2003 Gael Clichy Cannes £250,000 04-08-2003 Jose Reyes Seville £10,500,000^28-01-2004 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Jerome Thomas Charlton £100,000 02-02-2004 Net = -£14,150,000 2004-2005 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE Robin Van Persie Feyenoord £2,750,000 16-05-2004 Arturo Lupoli Parma £200,000 01-07-2004 Manuel Almunia Celta Vigo £1,500,000 14-07-2004 Mathieu Flamini Marseille £270,000 23-07-2004 Emmanuel Eboue Beveren £1,500,000 09-01-2005 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Francis Jeffers Charlton £2,600,000 10-08-2004 Net = -£3,620,000 2005-2006 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE Aleksandr Hleb VfB Stuttgart £10,000,000 12-07-2005 Vassiriki Diaby Auxerre £2,000,000 13-01-2006 Emmanuel Adebayor Monaco £3,000,000 13-01-2006 Theo Walcott Southampton £5,000,000* 20-01-2006 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Jermaine Pennant Birmingham £3,000,000% 01-07-2005 Patrick Vieira Juventus £13,700,000 15-07-2005 Owusu-Abeyie Spartak Moscow £1,450,000 31-01-2006 Net = -£1,850,000 2006-2007 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE Tomas Rosicky B. Dortmund £6,800,000 23-05-2006 Alexandre Song Bastia £1,000,000 01-08-2006 William Gallas Chelsea Swap 31-08-2006 Denilson Sao Paulo £3,400,000 31-08-2006 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Pascal Cygan Villarreal £2,000,000 31-08-2006 Ashley Cole Chelsea £5,000,000+ 31-08-2006 Anthony Stokes Sunderland £2,000,000 08-01-2007 Lauren Portsmouth £500,000 18-01-2007 Sebastian Larsson Birmingham £1,000,000 31-01-2007 Net = +£700,000 2007-2008 PLAYER FROM FEE DATE Lukasz Fabianski Legia Warsaw £2,000,000 26-05-2007 Havard Nordtveit FK Haugesund £500,000** 03-07-2007 Eduardo da Silva Dinamo Zagreb £8,000,000 03-07-2007 Bacary Sagna Auxerre £6,100,000@ 12-07-2007 Lassana Diarra Chelsea £2,000,000 31-08-2007 PLAYER TO FEE DATE Fabrice Muamba Birmingham £2,000,000$ 14-05-2007 Jeremie Aliadiere Middlesbro £2,000,000 19-06-2007 Thierry Henry Barcelona £16,100,000 25-06-2007 Fredrik Ljungberg West Ham £2,000,000! 23-07-2007 Jose Reyes Atletico Madrid £8,100,000 30-07-2007 Net = +£11,600,000 Notes: #Upson to Birmingham was £1m rising to a possible 3m AND a sell-on clause of 25% of any fee in excess of £2.5 million. ^Reyes from Sevilla was £10.5m rising to a possible £17m, but sold before it could rise above £12m. %Pennant's deal also included a sell-on clause of 25% of any fee. *Walcott from Southampton was £5m rising to a possible £12m. +Cole's deal was £5m + William Gallas. $Muamba to Birmingham was initially £2m and could rise to £4m. **Nordtveit from Haugesund was initially £500k and could rise to £2m after 40 first team appearances. @Sagna from Auxerre was initially £6.1m and could rise to £7.45m. !Ljungberg to West Ham was initially £2m and could rise to £3m. 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Baggio Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Your bottom sum is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnnyappleseed Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 not my sum and what bottom sum? +£11,600,000? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 not my sum and what bottom sum? +£11,600,000? Actually they've got them all wrong, his net spend would have been -£11,600,000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnnyappleseed Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 well i'm guessing + and - are used in the sense that for each transfer period he either added money (+) to the arsenal bank account or took money out (-). this summer he added 11.6m so i don't see what's wrong with saying +11.6m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Bought Pascal Cygan and put him ahead of Upson..smh I'll shut up now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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