Mick Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 A club that had finished 14th, 13th, 7th and 13th - its worst run of form since becoming a Premiership club. http://www.crewclothing.co.uk/public/images/product/outofstock.gif There are so many points in that post to take issue with it would take until next week to address them all, but this... Was it the sequence of league finished that bothered you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 A club that had finished 14th, 13th, 7th and 13th - its worst run of form since becoming a Premiership club. http://www.crewclothing.co.uk/public/images/product/outofstock.gif There are so many points in that post to take issue with it would take until next week to address them all, but this... Was it the sequence of league finished that bothered you? Obviously, and the associated implication that Allardyce started with the worst team we'd had since getting in the Premiership. Is accuracy expecting TOO MUCH? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 How else can you discuss the future of the team without discussing the rights and wrongs of the guy in charge, and dare I even say it, discuss his position at the club? We're just getting to know the guy's management style from a first-hand perspective, of course we're gonna discuss his methods and whether or not he'll take us in the right direction. People talk about these things a lot in this region because the passion for the game here is massive, everyone wants the same thing for the club but we have different ideas of how to get it. For many people Sam isn't the answer. I'd have thought an open public forum discussing all things Newcastle United would inevitably come to talk about the future of the man in charge of first team affairs. There's only so much you can say about James Milner's crossing or Joey Barton's temper, this is an issue people can get their teeth into. It's pointless trying to shout people down going "12 games man! TWELVE GAMES!". Let people discuss his future, in time they might very well be right. They only want what's best for the club. Exactly, how long do we have to wait before the manager can get his "average" team of multi-million pound internationals to string more than three passes together? 20 games? 38 games? How dare we demand to be competing with those giants of the premiership Man City, Everton and err....Portsmouth. We are not fit to lace their boots and the sooner we realise Big Sam's long term plan (target man, long throw-in specialists) the better!!!!! Go man for man with each of those sides and tell me who is the better player and why. I want each of our players compared to theirs, their skills and attributes and then tell me why you think you can go errr.... before comparing us to Portsmouth. Unless you think our current squad is as good as Man U's? If the players are that good (as they must be according to the all knowing on here) how come they look so shit? Keeping possession is not something your manager teaches you, its something you have in you, its an innate ability. Cant see it from where i'm standing in any but 3 of our players. You might want to argue they are great players but i think we have a limited squad that needs lots of work. Compare our team man for man with Derby, Reading and the Mackems and then explain to me why Sam set our team up to stifle the opposition and not concede. We ended up making Derby and the Mackems look like good footballing teams when the reality is that they're both relegation fodder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Didn't we just play a lot of 5-a sides under Keegan iirc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Didn't we just play a lot of 5-a sides under Keegan iirc? the players had fun under Keegan, and that was transformed onto the pitch. Players trusted eachother and knew eachothers stregths and weaknesses, this in turn led to 1 through 11 being comfortable with how they were being asked to play, even the defence who were often neglected by the midfiled for cover etc etc You can have all the tactical awareness in the world, but if the players aren't comfortable with it they won't perform Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Didn't we just play a lot of 5-a sides under Keegan iirc? the players had fun under Keegan, and that was transformed onto the pitch. Players trusted eachother and knew eachothers stregths and weaknesses, this in turn led to 1 through 11 being comfortable with how they were being asked to play, even the defence who were often neglected by the midfiled for cover etc etc You can have all the tactical awareness in the world, but if the players aren't comfortable with it they won't perform Totally agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Didn't we just play a lot of 5-a sides under Keegan iirc? Used to love going to the training under Keegan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Based on today's shambles I wonder how many "Yes" voters would now like to change their minds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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