madras Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 there is a slight debate in another thread about managers/players from the past, wether they could survive in todays game. i know it's not realistic as had duncan edwards been born in 1977 he'd have been used to the football of that day...so it's just a bit of fun. which players from the past ( pre premiership).as they were then would have survived had they been transported through time to todays game ?. for me..... beckenbauer cruyff bobby charlton pele and malcolm macdonald probably some more but they are off the top of my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Kevin Keegan Trevor Brooking Trevor Francis Cyril Regis All class when I was a bairn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Kevin Keegan Trevor Brooking Trevor Francis Cyril Regis All class when I was a bairn. they were,i think only regis would have cut it today and even then not at as high a standard. any more, i was thinking maybe steve coppell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Kevin Keegan Trevor Brooking Trevor Francis Cyril Regis All class when I was a bairn. they were,i think only regis would have cut it today and even then not at as high a standard. any more, i was thinking maybe steve coppell Coppell's a good shout. I reckon Zico springs to mind for international stars. Platini as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Baresi would cost an absolute fortune in today's market. You could build a team around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 A lot of the footballers I watched playing for my club in the late 70s / early 80s would manage very nicely in the current day and age. In fact, I reckon you got to see more skill and flair in the 70s and 80s than you do now (although I am aware of the various arguments pro and contra this argument, and acknowledge them). Things from back then that were much better than modern day: - Commentary from matches abroad being done over crackly phone lines - Players with long hair - Players with moustaches (how many 20 somethings these days sport a big tache? Not enough) - Eastern European teams being really good - English teams playing European ties behind the iron curtain in front of 100,000 crowds, 90 percent of whom appeared to be in military uniform. - Having to win your league to play in the European Cup - Taking your life in your hands almost every time you went to an away match - Characters (Frank Worthington, Rodney Marsh, Stan Bowles etc etc etc) - Man United being in the second division - Villa being in the second AND third division (back then when relegation didnt mean financial meltdown, a spell out of the top flight wasn't such a bad thing. The 87-88 season was one of the most enjoyable seasons I ever had, a lot of Villa fans 5 or so years older than me absolutely loved two years in the third division - oh how things have changed with money) - World Cups that weren't just about advertising and television revenues (when did they get so sterile? 1994, I think, was the turning point). I could go on and on. But I won't, I've already veered hugely off topic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 - World Cups that weren't just about advertising and television revenues (when did they get so sterile? 1994, I think, was the turning point). Nice post but that in particular is spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 - World Cups that weren't just about advertising and television revenues (when did they get so sterile? 1994, I think, was the turning point). Nice post but that in particular is spot on. Probably not coincidental with the fact that it was hosted in the US.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 - World Cups that weren't just about advertising and television revenues (when did they get so sterile? 1994, I think, was the turning point). Nice post but that in particular is spot on. Probably not coincidental with the fact that it was hosted in the US.. My Dad actually went to a few of the matches in Florida and he enjoyed it but reckoned it was ridiculously commercialised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Yet '94 was a superb tournament for football. The others after that.... Mind it was my real first proper World Cup so nostalgia might be tinting those specs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Things from back then that were much better than modern day: - Players with moustaches (how many 20 somethings these days sport a big tache? Not enough) Preach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 To the thread... Supermac questions whether he'd make it today, so does Le Tissier and Waddle among others. Me, I believe anyone with talent would make it from that era and vice versa, however I'm not so sure a lot of former great managers or good managers would survive today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Yet '94 was a superb tournament for football. The others after that.... Mind it was my real first proper World Cup so nostalgia might be tinting those specs. Dreadful final mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Yet '94 was a superb tournament for football. The others after that.... Mind it was my real first proper World Cup so nostalgia might be tinting those specs. Dreadful final mind. Aye agreed, shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 btw any successful player in the past would succeed today, they'd be trained to be that much more stronger, fitter, faster & might have to be played in a different position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 btw any successful player in the past would succeed today, they'd be trained to be that much more stronger, fitter, faster & might have to be played in a different position. Footballers of the past were trained to play in all kinds of positions, street football dictated that. Today players are giving a position in their youth and usually stick to that one position for life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 be wary with defenders as how many would be able to adapt to not running straight through the back of forwards..baresi was a great shout mind. re brummies nostalgia post.........76 euro champs was probably the first tournament i really took in and as you say the crackly phone line commentary,the good east european teams,the constant klaxon horns from the crowd,the way the black and white patched football skidded along the ground into the net. rouned off with the coolest moment in football..panenkas penalty in the shoot out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Baresi played during the Premiership era [/pedant] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 btw any successful player in the past would succeed today, they'd be trained to be that much more stronger, fitter, faster & might have to be played in a different position. Footballers of the past were trained to play in all kinds of positions, street football dictated that. Today players are giving a position in their youth and usually stick to that one position for life. Platini & Hoddle played in CM didn't they? imo those powder puffs would need to play elsewhere for most teams... certainly the Premiership. I need some examples of these forever adapting players of the past you described above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 btw any successful player in the past would succeed today, they'd be trained to be that much more stronger, fitter, faster & might have to be played in a different position. Footballers of the past were trained to play in all kinds of positions, street football dictated that. Today players are giving a position in their youth and usually stick to that one position for life. Platini & Hoddle played in CM didn't they? imo those powder puffs would need to play elsewhere for most teams... certainly the Premiership. I need some examples of these forever adapting players of the past you described above. They'd both easily be good enough I reckon. Hoddle played sweeper a few times in Premiership didn't he when he was nearly finished? And Platini was a canny bit better than Hoddle. Platini played as an attacking CM/link player really btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 That first Shola compilation in youtube is hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Baresi played during the Premiership era [/pedant] He played today under the alias of Richard Dunne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Baresi played during the Premiership era [/pedant] He played today under the alias of Richard Dunne. Dunne was immense today. Singlehandedly kept Liverpool at bay, almost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 btw any successful player in the past would succeed today, they'd be trained to be that much more stronger, fitter, faster & might have to be played in a different position. Footballers of the past were trained to play in all kinds of positions, street football dictated that. Today players are giving a position in their youth and usually stick to that one position for life. Platini & Hoddle played in CM didn't they? imo those powder puffs would need to play elsewhere for most teams... certainly the Premiership. I need some examples of these forever adapting players of the past you described above. They'd both easily be good enough I reckon. Hoddle played sweeper a few times in Premiership didn't he when he was nearly finished? And Platini was a canny bit better than Hoddle. Platini played as an attacking CM/link player really btw. Aye, no doubt they would be good enough but I don't think they could play CM in todays football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Francis played in the Premiership era. [/pedant] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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