NE5 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 It was Sir John H, was it not , who turned the club into a plc which led to KK leaving ??? I never liked FFS but he did keep us solvent as i have also pointed out. Nor was it his idea to appoint him in the first place. Don't expect anybody to even try to understand a clear fact though, as it doesn't misrepresent the fat bastard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redmayne Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 oh bollocks so we can't have a rant on a forum ok in that case sheperd is a pillar of the community and i wish him all the best -he was the best thing for NUFC EVER!!! he reminds me of gordon brown you know he's lying you just don't know what about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 It was Sir John H, was it not , who turned the club into a plc which led to KK leaving ??? I never liked FFS but he did keep us solvent as i have also pointed out. Nor was it his idea to appoint him in the first place. Don't expect anybody to even try to understand a clear fact though, as it doesn't misrepresent the fat bastard Which fat bastard was it that called geordie women dogs? The same fat bastard who was leaking Keegan's resignation letters under his tenure this week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 It was Sir John H, was it not , who turned the club into a plc which led to KK leaving ??? I never liked FFS but he did keep us solvent as i have also pointed out. Nor was it his idea to appoint him in the first place. Don't expect anybody to even try to understand a clear fact though, as it doesn't misrepresent the fat bastard Which fat bastard was it that called geordie women dogs? The same fat bastard who was leaking Keegan's resignation letters under his tenure this week? and the point is what exactly You can dispute the perfectly valid point made by Rob if you like, which had a slightly bigger effect on the club than calling Geordie women dogs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 oh bollocks so we can't have a rant on a forum ok in that case sheperd is a pillar of the community and i wish him all the best -he was the best thing for NUFC EVER!!! he reminds me of gordon brown you know he's lying you just don't know what about I suggest you look at the comments made by Souness, as against Shepherds, in another thread, to see who is lying. Click on my username and search for my factual reply, its only a few days ago, with links to find it. I can't be arsed to labour the point with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 and the point is what exactly You can dispute the perfectly valid point made by Rob if you like, which had a slightly bigger effect on the club than calling Geordie women dogs Are you bothered that he called Geordie women dogs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 and the point is what exactly You can dispute the perfectly valid point made by Rob if you like, which had a slightly bigger effect on the club than calling Geordie women dogs Are you bothered that he called Geordie women dogs? I couldn't give a toss, and I don;t know anybody who does. I'd have been massively bothered if he had decided to sell our best players and run the club like a mid table 2nd division club though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Hangings too good for that fat prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I couldn't give a toss, and I don;t know anybody who does. I'd have been massively bothered if he had decided to sell our best players and run the club like a mid table 2nd division club though. Fair enough, I think I'm right in saying that nothing about the sting bothered you at all, I am right in saying that, aren't I. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 It was Sir John H, was it not , who turned the club into a plc which led to KK leaving??? I never liked FFS but he did keep us solvent Got out before the s*** really hit the fan. Mort saying the club was in financial crisis ties in with the Halls being desperate to sell, Shepherd supposedly seeking a consortium to buy the club, and Ashley needing to pay off the £100m debt (which could well have had huge interest/securities taken out against it for all we know that far outweighed any benefits from the new TV deal - with that future income having already been spent?). Its amusing how, when it comes to Shepherd, everyone else is lying. Robson says he was undermined? Hes a liar. Souness says he was undermined? Hes a liar. Mort says the club was in huge financial trouble? Obvious liar. But I agree with some of that. Souness is a liar. When he implied that Owen was his signing, he lied at the time, because as manager of Newcastle United hes not going to openly say "Owen is not my signing", is he? Part and parcel of the game is to lie to the media to pass over any matters of conflict or disagreement. Everyone knew Mourinho was being undermined by Abramovich, yet he publicly stated there was no problem at all - a lie. No doubt the compensation package involved Souness not being allowed to speak about what happened, which is why hes come out now when Shepherd has gone. Anyway, we went backwards massively since Shepherd took over as chairman and the previous chairman and another board member or two had left. Thats all I'll remember him for. Success during the Robson years was in spite of Shepherd, not because of him, although he can take as much credit as he wants for making the appointment, but it didnt take too long for him to tear that success apart through his own negligence and incompetence, having no idea at all how to phase Robson out and make moves to replace him (plain and simple incompetence, maybe a manual on staff replacement procedures would have helped?). And he made a killing too, declaring millions in dividends when the club was in huge debt that we now know for a fact was unsustainable, the warehouse scam (directors tend to get replaced for things like that in every business sector, unfortunately for us the directors here also happened to be major shareholders and could do whatever he wanted, so all those thousands of little shareholders couldnt do a thing), and the various other dodgey personal dealings done through the club. Good luck to him though. Was quite clearly a nice bloke outside of the cringe-worthy comments (fans want Hitzefld? oh noes, must be a betting scam ), filling his own pockets, lying to the fans, and making s*** footballing decisions (to be fair, most of us wouldnt think twice about benefitting personally from the company we work for if we could), and clearly wanted us to do well on the pitch and had the ambition to go out and sign big name players - just a shame he wasnt very good at any of that and his footballing knowledge was piss poor. Men in suit making footballing decisions and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 NE5, you are a Keegan fan like any other right minded geordie. You tell me whether leaking Keegan's resignation letters to the scum/press puts the fat bastard on our side or the scum? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 NE5, you are a Keegan fan like any other right minded geordie. You tell me whether leaking Keegan's resignation letters to the scum/press puts the fat b****** on our side or the scum? What are you on about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I couldn't give a toss, and I don;t know anybody who does. I'd have been massively bothered if he had decided to sell our best players and run the club like a mid table 2nd division club though. Fair enough, I think I'm right in saying that nothing about the sting bothered you at all, I am right in saying that, aren't I. not particularly, no I'm not bothered. Mrs NE5 says Shepherd is no oil painting himself in fact, although she isn't a Geordie, and wasn't bothered either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 not particularly, no I'm not bothered. Mrs NE5 says Shepherd is no oil painting himself in fact, although she isn't a Geordie, and wasn't bothered either I was puzzled that it didn't bother you that the chairman was socialising with prostitutes while slagging off so many undeserving people but the following did: http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=48827.msg1153270#msg1153270 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sniffer Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 There are a hell of a lot of people deserve hanging in this country before FS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Like Dougie Hall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 not particularly, no I'm not bothered. Mrs NE5 says Shepherd is no oil painting himself in fact, although she isn't a Geordie, and wasn't bothered either I was puzzled that it didn't bother you that the chairman was socialising with prostitutes while slagging off so many undeserving people but the following did: http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=48827.msg1153270#msg1153270 you are completely mistaken. The only thing that bothers me is how they back their managers. The point is, when they have proved themselves in that particular respect, they can do what they like, and I don't give a toss. Manure fans who know what it takes to be successful didn't give a toss when martin Edwards was discovered doing whatever he was doing in that red light area of whatever it was. Take note and learn from the successful clubs, or stay cocooned in a little world with different [and inferior] standards to others if you prefer things that way. I wouldn't want a chairman who didn't back their managers but became popular simply because he sat with the boys, now THAT would be embarrassing and worthy of the ridicule of the outside press. Understand ? McKeag was a gentleman. Did you like him/think he was a good bloke, so was a good chairman ie better than the fat bastard, on that basis ? A straight reply would be nice for a change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Like Dougie Hall. I thought you'd been away so long you'd hung yourself after I discovered the absurd comment highlighted in my signature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sniffer Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 McKeag was a twat who was only interested in making money from the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 you are completely mistaken. The only thing that bothers me is how they back their managers. The point is, when they have proved themselves in that particular respect, they can do what they like, and I don't give a toss. Manure fans who know what it takes to be successful didn't give a toss when martin Edwards was discovered doing whatever he was doing in that red light area of whatever it was. Take note and learn from the successful clubs, or stay cocooned in a little world with different [and inferior] standards to others if you prefer things that way. I wouldn't want a chairman who didn't back their managers but became popular simply because he sat with the boys, now THAT would be embarrassing and worthy of the ridicule of the outside press. Understand ? McKeag was a gentleman. Did you like him/think he was a good bloke, so was a good chairman ie better than the fat b******, on that basis ? A straight reply would be nice for a change. I couldn't stand McKeag when he was chairman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 McKeag was a t*** who was only interested in making money from the club. any proof of that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 you are completely mistaken. The only thing that bothers me is how they back their managers. The point is, when they have proved themselves in that particular respect, they can do what they like, and I don't give a toss. Manure fans who know what it takes to be successful didn't give a toss when martin Edwards was discovered doing whatever he was doing in that red light area of whatever it was. Take note and learn from the successful clubs, or stay cocooned in a little world with different [and inferior] standards to others if you prefer things that way. I wouldn't want a chairman who didn't back their managers but became popular simply because he sat with the boys, now THAT would be embarrassing and worthy of the ridicule of the outside press. Understand ? McKeag was a gentleman. Did you like him/think he was a good bloke, so was a good chairman ie better than the fat b******, on that basis ? A straight reply would be nice for a change. I couldn't stand McKeag when he was chairman. you couldn't stand Shepherd either. But it isn't your personal feelings that are relevant to how they ran the club and how the club performed, nor is it what I'm asking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 ding sing..secands out..round four thousand six hundred and ninety-eight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 McKeag was a t*** who was only interested in making money from the club. any proof of that ? aye. McKeag was an honourable man and a gentleman, but simply the last of a whole line of absolute crap chairmen who ran the club like a corner shop for the thick end of 40 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 McKeag was a t*** who was only interested in making money from the club. any proof of that ? aye. McKeag was an honourable man and a gentleman, but simply the last of a whole line of absolute crap chairmen who ran the club like a corner shop for the thick end of 40 years. your accusing him of dipping his fingers in the till ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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