samag Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Just sad its come to this, both sides must take their share of the blame for the embarrassing headlines for the club. Now it has happened best for all if Barton moves as soon as possible . Then the club can some how move on . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 We can reveal Barton initially refused to play in that game after being told he would not be captain. What a pile of s****. Barton definitely wouldn't refuse to play a game, captain or not. Nice stuff from the Sun once again While i would agree with you, how the hell would you know that though ? Touché It is something I would like to believe is very true. Me too, but if what is being alluded too, asking for more money, tantrums about captaincy and set pieces, he's looking a right tit, loves the club ? hmmm. not if that lots true. Well one of his tweets did say that he would support whoever was captain and that he would concentrate on doing his utmost best for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 We can reveal Barton initially refused to play in that game after being told he would not be captain. What a pile of s****. Barton definitely wouldn't refuse to play a game, captain or not. Nice stuff from the Sun once again While i would agree with you, how the hell would you know that though ? Touché It is something I would like to believe is very true. Me too, but if what is being alluded too, asking for more money, tantrums about captaincy and set pieces, he's looking a right tit, loves the club ? hmmm. not if that lots true. Well one of his tweets did say that he would support whoever was captain and that he would concentrate on doing his utmost best for the team. Yes, but Shola getting the captaincy would be enough to send anybody over the edge. Ha, indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Whether the stories about Barton refusing to play or rowing with Pardew are true or not, such stories will be fed to the media in order to quell fan disquiet and try and turn them against Barton. They have done with it with Keegan, Shearer, Given, Nolan and Carroll. It is Barton's turn now. I think it is interesting that the odd player comments seem to be supportive of Barton. He was certainly a favourite with the younger players. Coloccini can fuck off, the greedy curly haired cunt. Sorry, just getting some practice in for next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 That would have sat right on here, 2 years back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Here is the said tweet: @Joey7Barton Joseph Barton I'm happy for Colo and it's probably the correct decision given my precarious contract situation, gives stability. I'll be a leader without an armband and I'll be there for Colo as well as all the lads regardless, selfishly it let's me concentrate on playing well every week #NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Whether the stories about Barton refusing to play or rowing with Pardew are true or not, such stories will be fed to the media in order to quell fan disquiet and try and turn them against Barton. They have done with it with Keegan, Shearer, Given, Nolan and Carroll. It is Barton's turn now. I think it is interesting that the odd player comments seem to be supportive of Barton. He was certainly a favourite with the younger players. I dont buy that propaganda stuff, it just too awkward to do if you dont control the whole media and every reporter, there is blame on both sides for me, if Ashley stays then its best Barton leaves, if Ashley was going then brilliant but hes not, so option one is the goer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Here is the said tweet: @Joey7Barton Joseph Barton I'm happy for Colo and it's probably the correct decision given my precarious contract situation, gives stability. I'll be a leader without an armband and I'll be there for Colo as well as all the lads regardless, selfishly it let's me concentrate on playing well every week #NUFC If he did kick off then that tweet shows how much of a brat he can be, ok until his own way is not given to him. I reckon he's been like a slow boiling kettle for a few weeks and Sunday he boiled over, supporting this club is sometimes unfunny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Here is the said tweet: @Joey7Barton Joseph Barton I'm happy for Colo and it's probably the correct decision given my precarious contract situation, gives stability. I'll be a leader without an armband and I'll be there for Colo as well as all the lads regardless, selfishly it let's me concentrate on playing well every week #NUFC If he did kick off then that tweet shows how much of a brat he can be, ok until his own way is not given to him. I reckon he's been like a slow boiling kettle for a few weeks and Sunday he boiled over, supporting this club is sometimes unfunny. He's been like that since he opened his Twitter account tbh. As long as he doesn't talk about club matters, he can be a laugh on Twitter really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Here is the said tweet: @Joey7Barton Joseph Barton I'm happy for Colo and it's probably the correct decision given my precarious contract situation, gives stability. I'll be a leader without an armband and I'll be there for Colo as well as all the lads regardless, selfishly it let's me concentrate on playing well every week #NUFC If he did kick off then that tweet shows how much of a brat he can be, ok until his own way is not given to him. I reckon he's been like a slow boiling kettle for a few weeks and Sunday he boiled over, supporting this club is sometimes unfunny. He's been like that since he opened his Twitter account tbh. As long as he doesn't talk about club matters, he can be a laugh on Twitter really. So true, some of his exchanges were brilliant, funny and made me like him more and more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Opens the door for Ryan Taylor. Almost like a new signing really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpie99 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 OK, here is my take on all this. The "boys club" is slowly but surely being disbanded by Ashley. Quite right too, when you consider what has been going on. I dont think anyone on here would disagree with the sale of Nolan considering his demands and Barton is turning out to be a troublesome influence. Enrique too. Fromlast season, we have lost Carroll, Nolan, Campbell, Kuqi, Routledge from the squad and effectively, Barton is now on his way too. I think someone like a Stoke or Wigan might pick him up for free. Furthermore, we cannot shift the likes of Xisco, Perch and Smith who are basically surplus to requirements. Ranger wont go and it seems he is surplus too. It looks like Kadar and other kids may be loaned out. Lua Lua is also gone. Coming in, we have Cabaye, Marveaux, Ba and Abeid (who is more of one for the future). We have Gosling and HBA coming back. We seem to be promoting some of the kids like Fergusin, Vuckic and Tavernier to the senior squad . We have now got the most paper thin squad in the PL and with our record of injuries, you have to say that if Pardew doesnt go out and buy at least 5 players in the next month, we are in for a long hard season. Ashley MUST see the danger signs and therefore has to release substantial funds for the following: two left backs, one a capable back up One centre half one right midfielder one goalscorer It seems as though mostof our targetrs have turned us down so here is my list: Sell Forster to Celtic for 2 million and buy Isaguirre from them for an additionaL 3 million Buy Warnock from Villa as a back up left back for one million Get Upson from WHU on a free transfer as the 4th CH Sign Barnetta for 5 million pounds (ony a year left on his contract. Sign Long from Reading for 5 million pounds Total expenditure - 14 million pounds - Salry costs per year approximately 9 million pounds per annum Outgoings Routledge to Swansea - 2 million Instead of a loan, sell Lua Lua to Brighton for 2 million Barton to anyone for free Forster salary costs Kadar loan salary savings 50% Total income and savings = 4 million -salary savings 5.5 million per annum That little lot will cost Ashley approximately 13.5 million. He has no other choice now but to spend or else we are in deep shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpie99 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Forgot to add the sale of Enrique to iverpool for 6 million plus salary savings of 2.5 million so that brings the net expenditure down to 5 million quid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Not sure if serious...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoven11 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 That would not happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 You make something complicated sound easy. We were after 1 player before Barton, it will remain that way. Jonas will play right wing. Raylor, Guthrie, Gosling backup. Jonas moves back to the left when Marveaux is out. Jonas barely gets injured so they wont worry. The club will pretend they are going to replace Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 OK, here is my take on all this. The "boys club" is slowly but surely being disbanded by Ashley. Quite right too, when you consider what has been going on. I dont think anyone on here would disagree with the sale of Nolan considering his demands and Barton is turning out to be a troublesome influence. Enrique too. Fromlast season, we have lost Carroll, Nolan, Campbell, Kuqi, Routledge from the squad and effectively, Barton is now on his way too. I think someone like a Stoke or Wigan might pick him up for free. Furthermore, we cannot shift the likes of Xisco, Perch and Smith who are basically surplus to requirements. Ranger wont go and it seems he is surplus too. It looks like Kadar and other kids may be loaned out. Lua Lua is also gone. Coming in, we have Cabaye, Marveaux, Ba and Abeid (who is more of one for the future). We have Gosling and HBA coming back. We seem to be promoting some of the kids like Fergusin, Vuckic and Tavernier to the senior squad . We have now got the most paper thin squad in the PL and with our record of injuries, you have to say that if Pardew doesnt go out and buy at least 5 players in the next month, we are in for a long hard season. Ashley MUST see the danger signs and therefore has to release substantial funds for the following: two left backs, one a capable back up One centre half one right midfielder one goalscorer It seems as though mostof our targetrs have turned us down so here is my list: Sell Forster to Celtic for 2 million and buy Isaguirre from them for an additionaL 3 million Buy Warnock from Villa as a back up left back for one million Get Upson from WHU on a free transfer as the 4th CH Sign Barnetta for 5 million pounds (ony a year left on his contract. Sign Long from Reading for 5 million pounds Total expenditure - 14 million pounds - Salry costs per year approximately 9 million pounds per annum Outgoings Routledge to Swansea - 2 million Instead of a loan, sell Lua Lua to Brighton for 2 million Barton to anyone for free Forster salary costs Kadar loan salary savings 50% Total income and savings = 4 million -salary savings 5.5 million per annum That little lot will cost Ashley approximately 13.5 million. He has no other choice now but to spend or else we are in deep s***. He won't because he never sees the signs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Forgot to add the sale of Enrique to iverpool for 6 million plus salary savings of 2.5 million so that brings the net expenditure down to 5 million quid You ... um. You see five more players coming in? Even if it made financial sense to do so ... I don't even ... where how. No. Just ... I wish I was optimistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Still not sure anyone can afford to actually sign him with the huuuuge sign-on and agent fees that are involved in football today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpie99 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I am basing much of my opinion above on the fact that we are historically, a club that suffers many injuries, usually long term and with the injury records of the players we have signed recently, plus the fact the Tiote and Ba, possibly even Shola if he gets selected by Nigeria, will be away at the ANC for 6 weeks plus the fact that Ashley is looking at balancing the books whilst getting rid of the so called troublemakers, leaves the club extremely thin on the ground. Last season, we ended up with Lua Lua, Sameobi, Krul and Ferguson playing the last few games because we are down on numbers. I can see it happening again. We have already lost Guithrie, Fergusin and HBA to injuries and have now missed most of the practice matches and pre season training. They are not going to be able to just walk back in and perform when required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Llambais has already said they've saved some money for January, they're not daft. :lol: :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 http://www.express.co.uk/football/view/262623/Tweet-revenge-for-Newcastle “We had agreed a deal with Joey in January on a new contract and shook hands on that. But then he changed his mind and became a disruptive source in the camp. Just wondering if this quote is true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 looks like Llambias has been speaking to the Express (though as an "senior club source") http://www.express.co.uk/football/view/262623/Tweet-revenge-for-Newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Never their fault of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Ah the "senior club source" again..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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