Colocho Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Barton's out of position in that side. Forster Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrqiue Barton Tiote New Playmaker Ben Arfa Gameiro Best/New Striker They won't drop Nolan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Barton's out of position in that side. Forster Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrqiue Barton Tiote New Playmaker Ben Arfa Gameiro Best/New Striker They won't drop Nolan. Rubbish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Be more like this I reckon ------------- ---Forster Simo------Colo---------Willi--------Jose Jonas-----Barton ------Tiote--------HBA ---------Gervinho----------Sow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 That could be a good lineup Skirge. But I'm uncertain about Sow. This is his first season he's scoring on a regular basis. He may be a one hit wonder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 That could be a good lineup Skirge. But I'm uncertain about Sow. This is his first season he's scoring on a regular basis. He may be a one hit wonder. Fit in well here then lol we will flog him to Liverpool the season after for £50m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I know that Barton has been playing very well on the right, it's also his first season without as many injurys as before. He hasn't exactly had any decent wingers with some movement/pace when he has played in CM, doesn't make it easier to perform either. Barton has neither the presence nor close control to play CM. He's ten times the player in RM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I know that Barton has been playing very well on the right, it's also his first season without as many injurys as before. He hasn't exactly had any decent wingers with some movement/pace when he has played in CM, doesn't make it easier to perform either. Barton has neither the presence nor close control to play CM. He's ten times the player in RM. Have you even seen him play at CM this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I know that Barton has been playing very well on the right, it's also his first season without as many injurys as before. He hasn't exactly had any decent wingers with some movement/pace when he has played in CM, doesn't make it easier to perform either. Barton has neither the presence nor close control to play CM. He's ten times the player in RM. Not sure I agree that his time as a CM is over. We weren't even talking about him playing wide a few months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I know that Barton has been playing very well on the right, it's also his first season without as many injurys as before. He hasn't exactly had any decent wingers with some movement/pace when he has played in CM, doesn't make it easier to perform either. Barton has neither the presence nor close control to play CM. He's ten times the player in RM. Have you even seen him play at CM this season? Some of us actually go to the games, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I know that Barton has been playing very well on the right, it's also his first season without as many injurys as before. He hasn't exactly had any decent wingers with some movement/pace when he has played in CM, doesn't make it easier to perform either. Barton has neither the presence nor close control to play CM. He's ten times the player in RM. Have you even seen him play at CM this season? Some of us actually go to the games, yes. ...and? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I know that Barton has been playing very well on the right, it's also his first season without as many injurys as before. He hasn't exactly had any decent wingers with some movement/pace when he has played in CM, doesn't make it easier to perform either. Barton has neither the presence nor close control to play CM. He's ten times the player in RM. Not sure I agree that his time as a CM is over. We weren't even talking about him playing wide a few months ago. Completely irrelevant. We've seen him play both RM and CM this season, and the difference in the effectiveness is huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I know that Barton has been playing very well on the right, it's also his first season without as many injurys as before. He hasn't exactly had any decent wingers with some movement/pace when he has played in CM, doesn't make it easier to perform either. Barton has neither the presence nor close control to play CM. He's ten times the player in RM. Not sure I agree that his time as a CM is over. We weren't even talking about him playing wide a few months ago. Completely irrelevant. We've seen him play both RM and CM this season, and the difference in the effectiveness is huge. Doesn't mean it will be the case next season. He's developed a lot as a player and a person this season, it would be unwise to write him off as a CM. As he ages, he'll have no option but to play in field. Btw, I do go to games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Got my hopes up today when I saw 5 or 6 French sites mentioning us with Sow and Gervinho but they all refer to the Metro article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 You'd have to have a fucking screw loose to want him playing centrally tbh. Use your eyes instead of the specific position you've seen him assigned to on a computer game please folks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I know that Barton has been playing very well on the right, it's also his first season without as many injurys as before. He hasn't exactly had any decent wingers with some movement/pace when he has played in CM, doesn't make it easier to perform either. Barton has neither the presence nor close control to play CM. He's ten times the player in RM. Hilarious! On the on hand you say that Barton has not good enough control or presence to handle the CM--position. But on the other hand, you manage to defend Nolan, the incarnation of non-movement, who got no close control what so ever or a general presence in CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I know that Barton has been playing very well on the right, it's also his first season without as many injurys as before. He hasn't exactly had any decent wingers with some movement/pace when he has played in CM, doesn't make it easier to perform either. Barton has neither the presence nor close control to play CM. He's ten times the player in RM. Not sure I agree that his time as a CM is over. We weren't even talking about him playing wide a few months ago. Completely irrelevant. We've seen him play both RM and CM this season, and the difference in the effectiveness is huge. Doesn't mean it will be the case next season. He's developed a lot as a player and a person this season, it would be unwise to write him off as a CM. As he ages, he'll have no option but to play in field. Btw, I do go to games. He's not going to morph into a Tiote or a even a Nolan. He gets bullied in the middle and always will. He's a Beckham-type player and should stay out wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I know that Barton has been playing very well on the right, it's also his first season without as many injurys as before. He hasn't exactly had any decent wingers with some movement/pace when he has played in CM, doesn't make it easier to perform either. Barton has neither the presence nor close control to play CM. He's ten times the player in RM. Hilarious! On the on hand you say that Barton has not good enough control or presence to handle the CM--position. But on the other hand, you manage to defend Nolan, the incarnation of non-movement, who got no close control what so ever or a general presence in CM. Erm, what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I know that Barton has been playing very well on the right, it's also his first season without as many injurys as before. He hasn't exactly had any decent wingers with some movement/pace when he has played in CM, doesn't make it easier to perform either. Barton has neither the presence nor close control to play CM. He's ten times the player in RM. Not sure I agree that his time as a CM is over. We weren't even talking about him playing wide a few months ago. Completely irrelevant. We've seen him play both RM and CM this season, and the difference in the effectiveness is huge. Doesn't mean it will be the case next season. He's developed a lot as a player and a person this season, it would be unwise to write him off as a CM. As he ages, he'll have no option but to play in field. Btw, I do go to games. He's not going to morph into a Tiote or a even a Nolan. He gets bullied in the middle and always will. He's a Beckham-type player and should stay out wide. He's very like Beckham, which is why talk of needing a "winger" is ridiculous. Beckham's the best right-sided player in Premier League history, by some distance. It's all about delivery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 It isn't 'all' about delivery though, is it. Delivery is part of it... but so is pace, movement and attacking threat. There's more than one type of successful wide player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Can put Solano in that wide midfielder rather than winger bracket too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 It isn't 'all' about delivery though, is it. Delivery is part of it... but so is pace, movement and attacking threat. There's more than one type of successful wide player. Indeed, a good crosser is a must for a wide player BUT they need more than that to their game, Barton is never going to beat his man and get in behind, nor will he chase back all the way and get the ball back. He was the best we had from a poor balanced squad, hate to think Pardew & Ashley are happy thinking we have the right wing position sorted because we have Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 It isn't 'all' about delivery though, is it. Delivery is part of it... but so is pace, movement and attacking threat. There's more than one type of successful wide player. Indeed, a good crosser is a must for a wide player BUT they need more than that to their game, Barton is never going to beat his man and get in behind, nor will he chase back all the way and get the ball back. Don't remember you complaining about Solano, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Fair point Ron, although I think Solano was pretty mobile. At least in his earlier seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Nobby was part of a better balanced side and at his best was much of a better wide player than Barton. I am not saying we should never play him there, its great to have players who can adapt to other roles, its a long season. All I want is the club to look at buying a pacey out & out right winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 It isn't 'all' about delivery though, is it. Delivery is part of it... but so is pace, movement and attacking threat. There's more than one type of successful wide player. Indeed, a good crosser is a must for a wide player BUT they need more than that to their game, Barton is never going to beat his man and get in behind, nor will he chase back all the way and get the ball back. Don't remember you complaining about Solano, like. Just how important do you think crosses into the box will be next season? The Gervinho/Gameiro and even Sow types are not necessarily headers of the ball. Need I remind you that we now longer have a real target man, leading the line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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