BONTEMPI Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 The only games I can say we have dominated this season is Stoke away and Man U at home, and both of those were down to hassling and hoofing the ball up top. Not much intricate passing or movement going on and it's getting a bit tiresome now when we have the players to do it. The only time we really played nice stuff was the 1st half vs Fulham. If Pardew thinks we were an improvement then he's living up to his turboshit tag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 The only games I can say we have dominated this season is Stoke away and Man U at home, and both of those were down to hassling and hoofing the ball up top. Not much intricate passing or movement going on and it's getting a bit tiresome now when we have the players to do it. The only time we really played nice stuff was the 1st half vs Fulham. If Pardew thinks we were an improvement then he's living up to his turboshit tag. Villa away back in august was one of the best games i've seen from us in terms of possession and short passing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I find it amazing how you regular forum folk think you know more about tactics than a premiership manager; whose team are in 6th place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 If I was Cabaye I'd be off this Summer, like. Pardew's sold him a complete lie about the style of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I find it amazing how you regular forum folk think you know more about tactics than a premiership manager; whose team are in 6th place. I find it equally amazing how somebody with sight can defend him, I can't wait to see the back of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 If I was Cabaye I'd be off this Summer, like. Pardew's sold him a complete lie about the style of football. Yep, he is wasting his career here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I find it amazing how you regular forum folk think you know more about tactics than a premiership manager; whose team are in 6th place. Football is a simple game, complicated by fools. I think we have all watched enough football to be able to critique his tactical nouse.... Your sounding rather lawrenson esque. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I have to laugh at this or I might punch my cat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Close down the discussion forum, Shaun has spoken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Shaun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I have to laugh at this or I might punch my cat. Grow a mind, moronic reply , They all humans that get to live less than a 100 years just like you, whats makes you think you are worst than them. Seen dumber people in positions they shouldn't be in, but it doesnt stop them getting there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 His team is built on being very narrow and tight and all banks of four are very straight and well ordered. We could get away with it if we had steven taylor but we look a shambles defensively with Williamson and Simpson. he's become extremely scared of other teams counterring us since chelsea did in december but in fact since then we hvave done far worse and the hoof ball has increased (norwich, fulham, spurs). The stranget hign is I don't remember us playing quite this ugly last season. it's a strange set up really. he wants everyone pressing and filling back in high up the pitch and quickly reorganising into very rigid lines. he has no idea how to utilise cabaye or ben arfa. --full back--deep centre half--ball playing centre half--full back --defensive wide man--box to box cm--stopper--defensive wide man-- ------------------------deep forward----poacher-------------------- There's no room for flair because it won't allow the rigid side of our game to work. Cabaye's been adjusted to just be a constant runner and tbf he can do it because of his sheer stamina but he's wasted imo. I'm not sure he's that tactically strong, he knows how to be a tough immobile unit that is hard to break through the middle and poor full backs are backed up by strong defensive wingers but in terms of possession play and movement he has no clue. He either just hopes Cabaye, Jonas, Ba (Hatem when he plays) already have a good enough footballing knowledge to do it without instruction or he genuinely believes the best method is to stop them penetrating us and hitting it towards Ba/player capable of magic. I really hope he has some new formation or plan lined up but I doubt it. My best hope is we manage to sneak 6th come the end of the season and he has pre season to attract some better technical players and rethinks his strategy- hopefully moulding a specific role for Ben Arfa. Pretty much spot on. i don't see Ba as a forward that can play deep, infact im not sure if Cisse and Ba compliment each other at all. then again you spend 8-10 million on a striker which is alot considering our budget, what choice you got? have to play both right? Agreed. Well, Ba CAN play deep, or drift out wide, but it's a bit of a waste if he does. He's at his most dangerous in the box, so you would've thought we'd have looked for a striker to complement him and do a lot of creative work outside the box. Instead we've signed another forward who is more of a penalty area striker. Not saying they can't work together though, as Shearer and Ferdinand showed that two goalscorers can make a good pair. From looking at how great Cisse's first touch is, how clean his passing it, and his spry, sprightly movement, i'd keep Ba central and try and mould Cisse into more of an Eto'o style player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Demba Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I find it amazing how you regular forum folk think you know more about tactics than a premiership manager; whose team are in 6th place. I find it equally amazing how somebody with sight can defend him, I can't wait to see the back of him. Yeah me too, can't wait to be in the Championship again, fantastic division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Don't see any reason why Ba and Cisse can't work together but only if we create chances. We play with a midfield designed specifically not to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I find it amazing how you regular forum folk think you know more about tactics than a premiership manager; whose team are in 6th place. I find it equally amazing how somebody with sight can defend him, I can't wait to see the back of him. Yeah me too, can't wait to be in the Championship again, fantastic division. What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Pardew didn't get us out of the Championship and wouldn't have either. His record in that division is embarrassing for someone who claims to be a top manager, probably because of his negative approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Pardew didn't get us out of the Championship and wouldn't have either. His record in that division is embarrassing for someone who claims to be a top manager, probably because of his negative approach. With the team Hughton had, he'd have got us out of that division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Demba Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I find it amazing how you regular forum folk think you know more about tactics than a premiership manager; whose team are in 6th place. I find it equally amazing how somebody with sight can defend him, I can't wait to see the back of him. Yeah me too, can't wait to be in the Championship again, fantastic division. What? I'm just angry so many people are turning on Pardew when we are in 6th place, how do we know why he doesn't play Ben Arfa? we know he has off field problems and there can be other reasons too, we've also had terrible luck with injuries, and with a fully fit squad under Pardew we could easily be 4th right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Aye ok. It was all to do with the squad, so I'll be expecting a win better than 5-1 next week because this is a better squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Pardew didn't get us out of the Championship and wouldn't have either. His record in that division is embarrassing for someone who claims to be a top manager, probably because of his negative approach. Like when he didn't get West Ham promoted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Demba is a liverpool fan... Should probably point that out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Aye ok. It was all to do with the squad, so I'll be expecting a win better than 5-1 next week because this is a better squad. So that manager got us into the Premier League but we're in 6th in spite of this manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Our players are better than 6th. How can anyone defend him after today? Jesus Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Aye ok. It was all to do with the squad, so I'll be expecting a win better than 5-1 next week because this is a better squad. So that manager got us into the Premier League but we're in 6th in spite of this manager? TBF this manager has had a lot of luck for us to be where we are, he still deserves credit for 6th place though, but he also deserves stick for the god awful football and selections of late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Demba Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Our players are better than 6th. How can anyone defend him after today? Jesus Christ. They really aren't, considering the other teams around Newcastle. With the squad he has available 6th is very good especially with injuries, he clearly has problems with Ben Arfa, or the other way round, which was known when we signed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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