Is Mike Ashley the worst person ever to have been associated with NUFC?

[ToonTastic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

[Heron]

Yes, certainly in my time - he's an utter c***. In fact, he's not even that useful. He's just a lump of dried up shit.

[ShearMagic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

[ToonTastic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

[ShearMagic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

[ToonTastic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

 

I said the same to a Sunderland fan who told me that Wickham will be great in the future. We need someone now. If he isn't going to be able to cope in the PL straight away then we're screwed down the left. You appear to fail to even mention the worries of one of Taylor or Colo getting suspended or injured. Hell what happens if they both are missing, it's happened before. If you lose your only two centre backs and are left with the back 4 of Santon, r Taylor, Perch and Simpson we're going down simple as that. Defend from the midfield all you want but we will concede bucket loads and that is the fault of the two at the top.

[ToonTastic]

And I also must question whether you have seen any of our games so far. At the minute Obertan at right wing has been worse than Joey Barton and I thought we'd be able to copy without Joey no bother. The only other change is Cabaye who I admit has looked good but I can't see why you think the midfield is suddenly a bunch of world beaters.

[ShearMagic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

 

I said the same to a Sunderland fan who told me that Wickham will be great in the future. We need someone now. If he isn't going to be able to cope in the PL straight away then we're screwed down the left. You appear to fail to even mention the worries of one of Taylor or Colo getting suspended or injured. Hell what happens if they both are missing, it's happened before. If you lose your only two centre backs and are left with the back 4 of Santon, r Taylor, Perch and Simpson we're going down simple as that. Defend from the midfield all you want but we will concede bucket loads and that is the fault of the two at the top.

 

Unlike Wickham, Santon is actually ready to play PL now though. It's not as if the guy has played 7 times for Italy and 50 times or so for Inter 

 

All I was saying is that he'll get better and better, eventually reaching a level that is better than Enrique.

 

If Taylor or Colo gets injured we're fucked, but let's just hope it doesn't happen.

[ShearMagic]

And I also must question whether you have seen any of our games so far. At the minute Obertan at right wing has been worse than Joey Barton and I thought we'd be able to copy without Joey no bother. The only other change is Cabaye who I admit has looked good but I can't see why you think the midfield is suddenly a bunch of world beaters.

 

But Marveaux is better than Barton, and when Marveaux gains full match fitness (after the international break), I'd hope that he will start instead of Barton and we'll be a lot better for it.

[ToonTastic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

 

I said the same to a Sunderland fan who told me that Wickham will be great in the future. We need someone now. If he isn't going to be able to cope in the PL straight away then we're screwed down the left. You appear to fail to even mention the worries of one of Taylor or Colo getting suspended or injured. Hell what happens if they both are missing, it's happened before. If you lose your only two centre backs and are left with the back 4 of Santon, r Taylor, Perch and Simpson we're going down simple as that. Defend from the midfield all you want but we will concede bucket loads and that is the fault of the two at the top.

 

Unlike Wickham, Santon is actually ready to play PL now though. It's not as if the guy has played 7 times for Italy and 50 times or so for Inter 

 

All I was saying is that he'll get better and better, eventually reaching a level that is better than Enrique.

 

If Taylor or Colo gets injured we're f***ed, but let's just hope it doesn't happen.

 

Am I not right in thinking that was all before Jose left Inter, since then he's been left to play on loan and people in Italy aren't as impressed as they once were ? Yes he may come good but who knows.

 

But after these past two windows we shouldn't be in the position where we have to hope it doesn't happen. We've made huge profits. I won't cheer about huge profits when the first team squad needs huge investment.

[ToonTastic]

And I also must question whether you have seen any of our games so far. At the minute Obertan at right wing has been worse than Joey Barton and I thought we'd be able to copy without Joey no bother. The only other change is Cabaye who I admit has looked good but I can't see why you think the midfield is suddenly a bunch of world beaters.

 

But Marveaux is better than Barton, and when Marveaux gains full match fitness (after the international break), I'd hope that he will start instead of Barton and we'll be a lot better for it.

 

Marveaux who it seems Pardew seems to like as a left winger as he showed in the cup games. Again we need experienced squad players now not later.

[Punk77]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

 

I said the same to a Sunderland fan who told me that Wickham will be great in the future. We need someone now. If he isn't going to be able to cope in the PL straight away then we're screwed down the left. You appear to fail to even mention the worries of one of Taylor or Colo getting suspended or injured. Hell what happens if they both are missing, it's happened before. If you lose your only two centre backs and are left with the back 4 of Santon, r Taylor, Perch and Simpson we're going down simple as that. Defend from the midfield all you want but we will concede bucket loads and that is the fault of the two at the top.

 

Unlike Wickham, Santon is actually ready to play PL now though. It's not as if the guy has played 7 times for Italy and 50 times or so for Inter 

 

All I was saying is that he'll get better and better, eventually reaching a level that is better than Enrique.

 

If Taylor or Colo gets injured we're f***ed, but let's just hope it doesn't happen.

 

Am I not right in thinking that was all before Jose left Inter, since then he's been left to play on loan and people in Italy aren't as impressed as they once were ? Yes he may come good but who knows.

 

But after these past two windows we shouldn't be in the position where we have to hope it doesn't happen. We've made huge profits. I won't cheer about huge profits when the first team squad needs huge investment.

 

When a company has more than £100 mill in debt,  it's not successfull in my eyes. For once we managed to get more money in than out, but it's the decade with overspending without results on the pitch that we're now paying for..

[ToonTastic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

 

I said the same to a Sunderland fan who told me that Wickham will be great in the future. We need someone now. If he isn't going to be able to cope in the PL straight away then we're screwed down the left. You appear to fail to even mention the worries of one of Taylor or Colo getting suspended or injured. Hell what happens if they both are missing, it's happened before. If you lose your only two centre backs and are left with the back 4 of Santon, r Taylor, Perch and Simpson we're going down simple as that. Defend from the midfield all you want but we will concede bucket loads and that is the fault of the two at the top.

 

Unlike Wickham, Santon is actually ready to play PL now though. It's not as if the guy has played 7 times for Italy and 50 times or so for Inter 

 

All I was saying is that he'll get better and better, eventually reaching a level that is better than Enrique.

 

If Taylor or Colo gets injured we're f***ed, but let's just hope it doesn't happen.

 

Am I not right in thinking that was all before Jose left Inter, since then he's been left to play on loan and people in Italy aren't as impressed as they once were ? Yes he may come good but who knows.

 

But after these past two windows we shouldn't be in the position where we have to hope it doesn't happen. We've made huge profits. I won't cheer about huge profits when the first team squad needs huge investment.

 

When a company has more than £100 mill in debt,  it's not successfull in my eyes. For once we managed to get more money in than out, but it's the decade with overspending without results on the pitch that we're now paying for..

 

A debt which is still at such a peak because of Ashley though

[NG32]

And I also must question whether you have seen any of our games so far. At the minute Obertan at right wing has been worse than Joey Barton and I thought we'd be able to copy without Joey no bother. The only other change is Cabaye who I admit has looked good but I can't see why you think the midfield is suddenly a bunch of world beaters.

 

But Marveaux is better than Barton, and when Marveaux gains full match fitness (after the international break), I'd hope that he will start instead of Barton and we'll be a lot better for it.

 

Marveaux who it seems Pardew seems to like as a left winger as he showed in the cup games. Again we need experienced squad players now not later.

 

Dont worry TT, we balanced some books, thats all that matters.

 

 

[ToonTastic]

And I also must question whether you have seen any of our games so far. At the minute Obertan at right wing has been worse than Joey Barton and I thought we'd be able to copy without Joey no bother. The only other change is Cabaye who I admit has looked good but I can't see why you think the midfield is suddenly a bunch of world beaters.

 

But Marveaux is better than Barton, and when Marveaux gains full match fitness (after the international break), I'd hope that he will start instead of Barton and we'll be a lot better for it.

 

Marveaux who it seems Pardew seems to like as a left winger as he showed in the cup games. Again we need experienced squad players now not later.

 

Dont worry TT, we balanced some books, thats all that matters.

 

 

 

Crazy isn't it.

[NG32]

And I also must question whether you have seen any of our games so far. At the minute Obertan at right wing has been worse than Joey Barton and I thought we'd be able to copy without Joey no bother. The only other change is Cabaye who I admit has looked good but I can't see why you think the midfield is suddenly a bunch of world beaters.

 

But Marveaux is better than Barton, and when Marveaux gains full match fitness (after the international break), I'd hope that he will start instead of Barton and we'll be a lot better for it.

 

Marveaux who it seems Pardew seems to like as a left winger as he showed in the cup games. Again we need experienced squad players now not later.

 

Dont worry TT, we balanced some books, thats all that matters.

 

 

 

Crazy isn't it.

 

Yohan Cabaye (£4.3m) for Kevin Nolan (£4m)

Demba Ba (free) for Andy Carroll (£35m)

Sylvain Marveaux (free) for Joey Barton (free)

Gabriel Obertan (£3.25m) for Wayne Routledge (£2m)

Rob Elliot (£0.1m) for Fraser Forster (loan)

Davide Santon (£5m) for Jose Enrique (£6m)

Total spent £12.65m Total received £47m

 

We dont have to buy a striker, we had to balance the books, there was no one available.  blah blah blah blah blah

[Punk77]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

 

I said the same to a Sunderland fan who told me that Wickham will be great in the future. We need someone now. If he isn't going to be able to cope in the PL straight away then we're screwed down the left. You appear to fail to even mention the worries of one of Taylor or Colo getting suspended or injured. Hell what happens if they both are missing, it's happened before. If you lose your only two centre backs and are left with the back 4 of Santon, r Taylor, Perch and Simpson we're going down simple as that. Defend from the midfield all you want but we will concede bucket loads and that is the fault of the two at the top.

 

Unlike Wickham, Santon is actually ready to play PL now though. It's not as if the guy has played 7 times for Italy and 50 times or so for Inter 

 

All I was saying is that he'll get better and better, eventually reaching a level that is better than Enrique.

 

If Taylor or Colo gets injured we're f***ed, but let's just hope it doesn't happen.

 

Am I not right in thinking that was all before Jose left Inter, since then he's been left to play on loan and people in Italy aren't as impressed as they once were ? Yes he may come good but who knows.

 

But after these past two windows we shouldn't be in the position where we have to hope it doesn't happen. We've made huge profits. I won't cheer about huge profits when the first team squad needs huge investment.

 

When a company has more than £100 mill in debt,  it's not successfull in my eyes. For once we managed to get more money in than out, but it's the decade with overspending without results on the pitch that we're now paying for..

 

A debt which is still at such a peak because of Ashley though

 

The club was already in a world of hurt when he bought it. He made the condition worse due to his inexperience with running a football club. But he's slowly turning the ship around.

[ShearMagic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

 

I said the same to a Sunderland fan who told me that Wickham will be great in the future. We need someone now. If he isn't going to be able to cope in the PL straight away then we're screwed down the left. You appear to fail to even mention the worries of one of Taylor or Colo getting suspended or injured. Hell what happens if they both are missing, it's happened before. If you lose your only two centre backs and are left with the back 4 of Santon, r Taylor, Perch and Simpson we're going down simple as that. Defend from the midfield all you want but we will concede bucket loads and that is the fault of the two at the top.

 

Unlike Wickham, Santon is actually ready to play PL now though. It's not as if the guy has played 7 times for Italy and 50 times or so for Inter 

 

All I was saying is that he'll get better and better, eventually reaching a level that is better than Enrique.

 

If Taylor or Colo gets injured we're f***ed, but let's just hope it doesn't happen.

 

Am I not right in thinking that was all before Jose left Inter, since then he's been left to play on loan and people in Italy aren't as impressed as they once were ? Yes he may come good but who knows.

 

But after these past two windows we shouldn't be in the position where we have to hope it doesn't happen. We've made huge profits. I won't cheer about huge profits when the first team squad needs huge investment.

 

When a company has more than £100 mill in debt,  it's not successfull in my eyes. For once we managed to get more money in than out, but it's the decade with overspending without results on the pitch that we're now paying for..

 

A debt which is still at such a peak because of Ashley though

 

Is that really relevant? A debt is a debt, it needs to be repaid. The club has to be very careful for the next few years - anyone that actually spent we would spent the majority of the Carroll money was in cuckoo land.

[ToonTastic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

 

I said the same to a Sunderland fan who told me that Wickham will be great in the future. We need someone now. If he isn't going to be able to cope in the PL straight away then we're screwed down the left. You appear to fail to even mention the worries of one of Taylor or Colo getting suspended or injured. Hell what happens if they both are missing, it's happened before. If you lose your only two centre backs and are left with the back 4 of Santon, r Taylor, Perch and Simpson we're going down simple as that. Defend from the midfield all you want but we will concede bucket loads and that is the fault of the two at the top.

 

Unlike Wickham, Santon is actually ready to play PL now though. It's not as if the guy has played 7 times for Italy and 50 times or so for Inter 

 

All I was saying is that he'll get better and better, eventually reaching a level that is better than Enrique.

 

If Taylor or Colo gets injured we're f***ed, but let's just hope it doesn't happen.

 

Am I not right in thinking that was all before Jose left Inter, since then he's been left to play on loan and people in Italy aren't as impressed as they once were ? Yes he may come good but who knows.

 

But after these past two windows we shouldn't be in the position where we have to hope it doesn't happen. We've made huge profits. I won't cheer about huge profits when the first team squad needs huge investment.

 

When a company has more than £100 mill in debt,  it's not successfull in my eyes. For once we managed to get more money in than out, but it's the decade with overspending without results on the pitch that we're now paying for..

 

A debt which is still at such a peak because of Ashley though

 

The club was already in a world of hurt when he bought it. He made the condition worse due to his inexperience with running a football club. But he's slowly turning the ship around.

 

Relegation was his fault, failure to see the clubs books before buying the club was his fault, failure to bring in a chairman who knew football was his fault, the failure of past managers was his fault, the high wages of the likes of Smith was his fault. The clubs debt was being managed by the number of fans in the stadium that was no problem. Yes we maybe needed to reduce the wage bill but that didn't have to be done in the way Ashley has done it. The wage bill we were told was reduced enough in the championship yet we still sold Carroll despite the club now having a much larger income from the PL and failed to replace him, that was also Ashleys fault and the failure to invest some of the funds we recieved from the Carroll money to improve all needed areas of the squad is Ashleys fault. He could have easily improved whilst still making a profit but he failed. Now fuck off with the all is great cause we've made a profit and that will help us reduce the debt. We're one of the few clubs I know where the fans argue over the cash in the club namely due to the excuses of the two tossers at the top.

[ToonTastic]

 

Is that really relevant? A debt is a debt, it needs to be repaid. The club has to be very careful for the next few years - anyone that actually spent we would spent the majority of the Carroll money was in cuckoo land.

 

Of course it's relevant without his continued incompetence we would be a year longer in the PL and able to start paying off the debts. This debt is also the debt that the two at the top said Ashley had paid off and the club was debt free, then when things went wrong was suddenly a debt again, then when we were relegated it wasn't a debt we only had the £20m Ashley had put in. This has now been paid off. The only debt we have is owed to Ashely the owner of the club. If he wants it back, take it from the profits tell the fans he has repaid half his loan and then we can get closer to him fucking off.

[Punk77]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

 

I said the same to a Sunderland fan who told me that Wickham will be great in the future. We need someone now. If he isn't going to be able to cope in the PL straight away then we're screwed down the left. You appear to fail to even mention the worries of one of Taylor or Colo getting suspended or injured. Hell what happens if they both are missing, it's happened before. If you lose your only two centre backs and are left with the back 4 of Santon, r Taylor, Perch and Simpson we're going down simple as that. Defend from the midfield all you want but we will concede bucket loads and that is the fault of the two at the top.

 

Unlike Wickham, Santon is actually ready to play PL now though. It's not as if the guy has played 7 times for Italy and 50 times or so for Inter 

 

All I was saying is that he'll get better and better, eventually reaching a level that is better than Enrique.

 

If Taylor or Colo gets injured we're f***ed, but let's just hope it doesn't happen.

 

Am I not right in thinking that was all before Jose left Inter, since then he's been left to play on loan and people in Italy aren't as impressed as they once were ? Yes he may come good but who knows.

 

But after these past two windows we shouldn't be in the position where we have to hope it doesn't happen. We've made huge profits. I won't cheer about huge profits when the first team squad needs huge investment.

 

When a company has more than £100 mill in debt,  it's not successfull in my eyes. For once we managed to get more money in than out, but it's the decade with overspending without results on the pitch that we're now paying for..

 

A debt which is still at such a peak because of Ashley though

 

Is that really relevant? A debt is a debt, it needs to be repaid. The club has to be very careful for the next few years - anyone that actually spent we would spent the majority of the Carroll money was in cuckoo land.

 

Exactly! The club has to take incremantal steps towards recovery. I do not want us to be like Liverpool. They're going "all in" as we speak. Imagine the economical chaos if they don't win anything.

[ToonTastic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

 

I said the same to a Sunderland fan who told me that Wickham will be great in the future. We need someone now. If he isn't going to be able to cope in the PL straight away then we're screwed down the left. You appear to fail to even mention the worries of one of Taylor or Colo getting suspended or injured. Hell what happens if they both are missing, it's happened before. If you lose your only two centre backs and are left with the back 4 of Santon, r Taylor, Perch and Simpson we're going down simple as that. Defend from the midfield all you want but we will concede bucket loads and that is the fault of the two at the top.

 

Unlike Wickham, Santon is actually ready to play PL now though. It's not as if the guy has played 7 times for Italy and 50 times or so for Inter 

 

All I was saying is that he'll get better and better, eventually reaching a level that is better than Enrique.

 

If Taylor or Colo gets injured we're f***ed, but let's just hope it doesn't happen.

 

Am I not right in thinking that was all before Jose left Inter, since then he's been left to play on loan and people in Italy aren't as impressed as they once were ? Yes he may come good but who knows.

 

But after these past two windows we shouldn't be in the position where we have to hope it doesn't happen. We've made huge profits. I won't cheer about huge profits when the first team squad needs huge investment.

 

When a company has more than £100 mill in debt,  it's not successfull in my eyes. For once we managed to get more money in than out, but it's the decade with overspending without results on the pitch that we're now paying for..

 

A debt which is still at such a peak because of Ashley though

 

Is that really relevant? A debt is a debt, it needs to be repaid. The club has to be very careful for the next few years - anyone that actually spent we would spent the majority of the Carroll money was in cuckoo land.

 

Exactly! The club has to take incremantal steps towards recovery. I do not want us to be like Liverpool. They're going "all in" as we speak. Imagine the economical chaos if they don't win anything.

 

People have said the same about Chelsea, and Man City and Man Utd yet them seem to all be doing fine and have been for a while now. I'm not and most people are not asking to go all in just spend some of the money say £13m on a striker and a loan defender and we would have been covered and still made a huge profit. Ashley has no intention of progressing the club, i said it from day one when he took over. His intentions are to make himself lots of money he really doesn't care if we fight relegation each year, and once the club is able to support himself he would;nt care about another season in the championship either as the club could still run a profit off parachute payments.

[BlueStar]

I bet the scousers are in tears, "Oh no, we're trying to win things! We've bought another player! The balance sheeeeeetttt!"

I'll certainly be gloating in the stands when Suarez scores against us, waving my little calculator and singing songs about how I have reservations over if their champions league Tv money will adequately cover their wages.  Can't wait to see their faces.

[ShearMagic]

I bet the scousers are in tears, "Oh no, we're trying to win things! We've bought another player! The balance sheeeeeetttt!"

I'll certainly be gloating in the stands when Suarez scores against us, waving my little calculator and singing songs about how I have reservations over if their champions league Tv money will adequately cover their wages.  Can't wait to see their faces.

 

They'll be in tears in a few years time if it all backfires. If they don't make Champions League they'll start selling to buy next season (and they can afford to use all of their transfer funds, because the revenue they bring in is far greater than us)

[ShearMagic]

I for one welcome the sustainable business model that Mike Ashley has implemented. It's practical and through some increased revenues through extra sponsorship around the stadium (Sports Direct) and a few sales, our finances are eventually looking good.

 

I'm glad that he doesn't spunk stupid money on players like other clubs do, you have to make sure you get value for money and we weren't able to do that. Hopefully in January it will be different.

 

Far too many clubs (Leeds, Portsmouth) have spent above their means and look where they are now. Well done Mike, I for one appreciate you.

 

Cracking news we get to spend years living within our means not looking for Europe or trophies as that might mean we have to spend some cash. But hey what does trying to win things mean when Ashley can be in profit WAHOOOOOOO

 

Some people have to accept that we're a mid-table club - which is actually quite good considering our position (you know, newly promoted etc)

 

Sorry if I'd rather accept that we finished mid table last year, got rid of dead wood and could have actually improved the squad with the funds that were made available due to the sale of key players. It's how a club should progress by improving each year. I'm not expecting us to be fighting for Europe this year but I am expecting the club to try and improve the squad to eventually get there, not sit round looking for profit.

 

We did improve the squad though?

 

No we didn't, we improved some of the positions in the first team 11. If we improved the squad we wouldn't be struggling for a  striker despite needing one for 8 months. We wouldn't be one of the only clubs I know who don't have a recognised replacement to come in at centre back. We also weakened some of the first team such as left back and upfront with the sales of enrique and Carroll.

 

Santon will turn out better than Enrique in time, trust me.

 

Steven Taylor is in career best form, so is Tim Krul and Colo has been amazing. Our midfield is better than it was last year, and midfield is where most games are won and lost. You guys will eat your words when we finish top half this season.

 

I said the same to a Sunderland fan who told me that Wickham will be great in the future. We need someone now. If he isn't going to be able to cope in the PL straight away then we're screwed down the left. You appear to fail to even mention the worries of one of Taylor or Colo getting suspended or injured. Hell what happens if they both are missing, it's happened before. If you lose your only two centre backs and are left with the back 4 of Santon, r Taylor, Perch and Simpson we're going down simple as that. Defend from the midfield all you want but we will concede bucket loads and that is the fault of the two at the top.

 

Unlike Wickham, Santon is actually ready to play PL now though. It's not as if the guy has played 7 times for Italy and 50 times or so for Inter 

 

All I was saying is that he'll get better and better, eventually reaching a level that is better than Enrique.

 

If Taylor or Colo gets injured we're f***ed, but let's just hope it doesn't happen.

 

Am I not right in thinking that was all before Jose left Inter, since then he's been left to play on loan and people in Italy aren't as impressed as they once were ? Yes he may come good but who knows.

 

But after these past two windows we shouldn't be in the position where we have to hope it doesn't happen. We've made huge profits. I won't cheer about huge profits when the first team squad needs huge investment.

 

When a company has more than £100 mill in debt,  it's not successfull in my eyes. For once we managed to get more money in than out, but it's the decade with overspending without results on the pitch that we're now paying for..

 

A debt which is still at such a peak because of Ashley though

 

Is that really relevant? A debt is a debt, it needs to be repaid. The club has to be very careful for the next few years - anyone that actually spent we would spent the majority of the Carroll money was in cuckoo land.

 

Exactly! The club has to take incremantal steps towards recovery. I do not want us to be like Liverpool. They're going "all in" as we speak. Imagine the economical chaos if they don't win anything.

 

People have said the same about Chelsea, and Man City and Man Utd yet them seem to all be doing fine and have been for a while now. I'm not and most people are not asking to go all in just spend some of the money say £13m on a striker and a loan defender and we would have been covered and still made a huge profit. Ashley has no intention of progressing the club, i said it from day one when he took over. His intentions are to make himself lots of money he really doesn't care if we fight relegation each year, and once the club is able to support himself he would;nt care about another season in the championship either as the club could still run a profit off parachute payments.

 

Comparing us to Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd & Liverpool? Really?