henke Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The guy has his wages paid into a bank account, i'm fairly certain of that. Does he tell his bank he doesn't want interest on his savings? Does he fuck. If this is solely about Wonga then i'd sell him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 What a collosal fuck up on all sides, bent is not even an upgrade anyway ffs can't why are we alwas a ridiculous fucking circus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 What a collosal fuck up on all sides, bent is not even an upgrade anyway ffs can't why are we alwas a ridiculous fucking circus Always going to be with this bunch in charge. Embrace the farce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The guy has his wages paid into a bank account, i'm fairly certain of that. Does he tell his bank he doesn't want interest on his savings? Does he f***. If this is solely about Wonga then i'd sell him. Loads (most?) banks offer accounts that comply with sharia. Also, there is the notion that someone's can find things agreeable or otherwise in varying degrees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Povic Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Imo sell him, then get a third striker. Want motivated and focused players! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The guy has his wages paid into a bank account, i'm fairly certain of that. Does he tell his bank he doesn't want interest on his savings? Does he f***. If this is solely about Wonga then i'd sell him. Loads (most?) banks offer accounts that comply with sharia. Also, there is the notion that someone's can find things agreeable or otherwise in varying degrees. That doesn't exist on N-O. See the forum's opinion to Alan Pardew. Either Joop wearing lothario and best manager in the league or a slimy, lying tosser who will get us relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I cannot believe it was allowed to reach a point where he didn't go on a crucial pre-season tour purely over a squabble on wonga. There absolutely has to be another reason (bid has come in, he has requested to leave, injured? etc) At the very least he could have gone away with the squad for morale purposes and to train with the squad even if he didn't play in the games. I'm hoping there is another reason now because if not then this is a total and utter farce which as per usual has been handled dreadfully by the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 In hindsight Wonga should really have quietly said to the club they were okay with Cisse wearing a shirt without a badge. If Cisse leaves on the back of it, it's hardly going to improve their image and the whole business has given them more negative publicity they could have done without. Except of course both they and Ashley see all publicity as good publicity. It's a nonsense. He plays in the Barclays League He wore a Virgin Money Shirt. He likes gambling in casinos He sits smoking shisha pipes in a scruffy cafe. It's a conveniant excuse to engineer either a move or a big pay rise. I wonder if he invests his massive pay packet in ISA's and High Interest Offshore Bank Accounts as well? He has lost all sympathy taking this stance. Utterly hypocritical. Unless he comes out and explains himself while taking into account his own past actions, I and most can only assume he's taking this position because he wants a move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The thing I don't understand is why the other Muslims in our squad - Tiote and Ben Arfa - haven't kicked up the same amount of fuss if money lending at a rate of interest represents such a fundamental breach of Sharia law. http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/newcastle-cheick-tiote-willing-wear-2007779 To me, it seems as if Cisse wants out and is just using this whole situation as a sort of moral smokescreen to protect himself. I'm not the biggest fan of the current regime or Wonga by any stretch but I think Cisse has to be viewed as the primary cause of all the disruption in this instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Fuck Wonga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The thing I don't understand is why the other Muslims in our squad - Tiote and Ben Arfa - haven't kicked up the same amount of fuss if money lending at a rate of interest represents such a fundamental breach of Sharia law. http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/newcastle-cheick-tiote-willing-wear-2007779 To me, it seems as if Cisse wants out and is just using this whole situation as a sort of moral smokescreen to protect himself. I'm not the biggest fan of the current regime or Wonga by any stretch but I think Cisse has to be viewed as the primary cause of all the disruption in this instance. Inclined to agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The thing I don't understand is why the other Muslims in our squad - Tiote and Ben Arfa - haven't kicked up the same amount of fuss if money lending at a rate of interest represents such a fundamental breach of Sharia law. I don't know it's a strange one. Sometimes I hear Muslims don't drink alcohol but then I see them out on the town throwing back tequila slammers and snorting coke. It's so strange how they all act different as if they were individuals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The thing I don't understand is why the other Muslims in our squad - Tiote and Ben Arfa - haven't kicked up the same amount of fuss if money lending at a rate of interest represents such a fundamental breach of Sharia law. I don't know it's a strange one. Sometimes I hear Muslims don't drink alcohol but then I see them out on the town throwing back tequila slammers and snorting coke. It's so strange how they all act different as if they were individuals. it's like some christians are ok with gay marriage, some aren't. in this case though the stance taken by one is easily shot at. edit, I agree with the missing bit of your post about it possibly looking like an excuse to get out (like n'zogbia and insomniagate). there were rumours a little while back when it kicked off about it not really being him but pressure exerted on his family back in senegal, was this ever chacked out ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 :anguish: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer9 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 So he is contractually obligated to wear the sponsor's logo? Surely he is now in breach of contract and the club shouldn't be paying him. A later decision to allow him to play without it should see his wage lowered, not raised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Maybe he's been told that he will play the wide role and Bent as the central one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 He's using this Wonga sponsorship as an excuse to leave. He was happy to wear the Virgin shirt last season and he's happy to play in the Barclays Premier League and wear their logo on his sleeve and last time I checked they were both in the business of lending money with interest repayable on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Player acting a bit dumb (hypocritical yes but at least imo a slightly worthy cause, Wonga are a tacky company that prey on the vulnerable) is nothing new in the world of football, and essentially it looks like we're going to lose Cisse due to a sponsor logo row. I don't think it's reasonable to ever be in this position. I know Bent can score goals, but he's still just a f***ing poacher who isn't good enough for aston f***ing villa. Cisse may not be much more varied is his game but I'd like to see Bent try that Chelsea goal (or even Cisse's against Southampton this last season, or that juggle to the right leg against Stoke was it?), and for one Bent is a grumpy run of the mill premier league ego, I have remained deeply fond of Cisse even through his season long rough patch, that run into the crowd when he scored late on versus Fulham was magic. Bent is no upgrade, at best he is the same, he does not improve us, and as we learned last season we have to improve to stand still in the league. We should not be losing a striker who can be as brilliant as he was initially over a f***ing row about sponsors. The one thing I still kinda thought Pardew was ok at was man-management, keeping players on side, this is what we should be doing. Not f***ing ditching him for someone who elicits a shrug and well he'll at least score goals. We should be aiming higher but we're not and we never will be while we are owned by Ashley. May seem a bit longwinded, I think we can survive Cisse leaving alright if we sign Bent and someone better. (Ok much to ask for but we do need a more all round striker). We also need widemen and a Cabaye replacement if he's off. While Ashley is in charge 'this'll do' will be the philosophy for ever more. This seems pretty much symbolic of how much of a shambles our club is run by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 As ever with this club though there's a bigger picture and behind this muslim/Sharia law smokescreen lies another attempt to force Newcastle back to the table with an improved contract for Cisse - or sell him. from .com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 As ever with this club though there's a bigger picture and behind this muslim/Sharia law smokescreen lies another attempt to force Newcastle back to the table with an improved contract for Cisse - or sell him. from .com Dunno if they know that for certain or if they're just citing the Independent article from a few weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Sick of this shit tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I wish Cisse would just pack it in like Fuck knows if it's genuine or not, I just wish he would stop it, because I doubt Ashley will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If he's using this to get a new contract from Ashley, he's not winning that one. If he did get a new contract somehow, how will it look when he suddenly wears the shirt, nah can't see it being that, it'll all just look ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If he's using this to get a new contract from Ashley, he's not winning that one. If he did get a new contract somehow, how will it look when he suddenly wears the shirt, nah can't see it being that, it'll all just look ridiculous. I think he's using it to leave, did he look happy last season to you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If he's using this to get a new contract from Ashley, he's not winning that one. If he did get a new contract somehow, how will it look when he suddenly wears the shirt, nah can't see it being that, it'll all just look ridiculous. I think he's using it to leave, did he look happy last season to you? that wouldn't really matter, only a better offer usually makes players get itchy feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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