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2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

He's done an excellent job there, essentially got them in the position where they had something to lose and could press the panic button. Really enjoyed watching them, they're basically when you set your tactics to ultra attacking on FIFA from kick off.

 

 

 

Getting spanked 6-0, 4-0 week in/out suggests that he hasn’t done an ‘excellent’ job at all. Just because they attack at all costs, means nothing if they end up relegated. Imo.

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2 minutes ago, Nobody said:

That just seems like par for the course for any championship team that want to stay in the Premier League these days. Raphinha for 18m is an absolute bargain like. Would be over the moon if we signed him for twice that in the summer. 

Yeah, it seems that way now. But Raphinha was bought for a loss from Rennes from what they purchased him for. It was a gamble at the time. Compare those figures to our own prior to the last transfer window.- they’ve spent more than us. 

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4 minutes ago, Manxst said:

Yeah, it seems that way now. But Raphinha was bought for a loss from Rennes from what they purchased him for. It was a gamble at the time. Compare those figures to our own prior to the last transfer window.- they’ve spent more than us. 

Everyone has spent more than us man :lol:

 

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8 minutes ago, Manxst said:

Getting spanked 6-0, 4-0 week in/out suggests that he hasn’t done an ‘excellent’ job at all. Just because they attack at all costs, means nothing if they end up relegated. Imo.

He got Leeds from perpetual Championship bottlers to getting promoted and being the most exciting team to watch in the Premier League. Coming unstuck now doesn't change any of that.

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Just now, Armchair Pundit said:

Didn't some of the bigger named younger foreign managers credit Bielsa as a big influence/mentor to them? I seem to recall Pochettino and maybe Guardiola mentioning him?

Yes.

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Just now, Kid Icarus said:

He got Leeds from perpetual Championship bottlers to getting promoted and being the most exciting team to watch in the Premier League. Coming unstuck now doesn't change any of that.

I wouldn’t say they’re the most exciting team, other than they have conceded the most goals in a single month. 

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1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

He got Leeds from perpetual Championship bottlers to getting promoted and being the most exciting team to watch in the Premier League. Coming unstuck now doesn't change any of that.

 

Fergie was a shite manager after they lost 5-0 and 6-3 to Southampton in 1996 don't you know.

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18 minutes ago, HUGZ said:

Leeds fans are gutted, which should tell us everything we need to know.

 

He brought some glamour and big time back to Leeds, I enjoyed watching it. I think he was too big time for the owners at the end of the day.

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1 minute ago, Manxst said:

I know. But folk are going on about Bielsa like it’s the second coming of Keegan. I don’t see the attraction in all honesty. 

Literally no one has said that, or anything close to it :lol:

If you can't see the attraction of someone getting a medoicre championship tram promoted to finishing in the top 10 in their first season in the Premier league while playing very entertaining football, I don't understand why you even bother with the sport tbh :lol:

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1 minute ago, Nobody said:

Literally no one has said that, or anything close to it :lol:

If you can't see the attraction of someone getting a medoicre championship tram promoted to finishing in the top 10 in their first season in the Premier league while playing very entertaining football, I don't understand why you even bother with the sport tbh :lol:

Condescending much? It’s my opinion. Plus see the comment above. It’s very close to it. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Manxst said:

They seem to be. “The most exciting team to watch in the premier league”?

Last season, yeah. Not even remotely hyperbolic to say that, pretty commonly held view. Don't think it's anything like saying he's the second coming of Keegan. 

 

 

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Bielsea is a manager that brings joy to football and the league's he manages in.  He's flawed at times but when his team's click they are among the most exciting to watch.

 

I hate how people are quick to jump on managers like him.

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Just now, Manxst said:

Condescending much? It’s my opinion. 

Apologies if it came off as condescending, wasn't my intention.

I don't even rate Bielsa particularly highly overall, but he's done an excellent job with Leeds.

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All I’m saying is that ‘attack, attack, attack’ means fuck all when you’re about to be relegated and are getting humped every week. A truly world class manager would change things/his philosophy to accommodate the players he has at his disposal. I can see the appeal, and rate the first season he had…but teams have worked out his one dimensional style now, and to me, that’s a failure on his part. 

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1 minute ago, Armchair Pundit said:

I felt Leeds' recent decline was less about Bielsa and more about the team, that said though, one of my mates is a Leeds fan and he thinks Bielsa's just lost his magic, maybe been there too long.

 

He has been there too long tbh. He should be in charge of much better players. It will be interesting to see if the next manager gets as much value out of the same squad, or even improves it on that budget.

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Just now, Kid Icarus said:

I like watching nice football and think him getting Leeds promoted then staying up with the most exciting football in the league is the achievement. Sue iz.

It’s an achievement for any team to be promoted into the premier league and stay there. Much less playing decent attractive football. I’ve got respect for any team and manager that achieves that. But that was last year. This one has been shite imo, as they/Bielsa simply haven’t got a ‘plan B’. 

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1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

He has been there too long tbh. He should be in charge of much better players. It will be interesting to see if the next manager gets as much value out of the same squad, or even improves it on that budget.

On the budget? They’ve brought in zero money from player sales and spent a fair amount. 

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