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JoeyBartoon

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12 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Oh, the one billion quid argument. People still including Pogba's fees when trying to argue their way out of corners.

 

Our starting lineup against City on Saturday cost less than your starting lineup against Brentford. But whatever floats your boat. 


Can we include the 200m worth of signings on the bench which Ten Hag made? Stick that into the review 

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gdm

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23 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

£40m+ on a 22 year old Joelinton. Mike Splashley.

Yep that’s what to do pick the one single time in 14 years Mike Ashley bizarrely spent decent money on a player…on a player that Rafa said we shouldn’t spend that amount on and Steve Bruce didn’t even know who it was. Well played 

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KetsbaiaIsBald

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5 minutes ago, Froggy said:

I'm just saying what happened. I'm not a fan of forcing everyone back into offices after all this time.

No you're being spineless.  You're indirectly defending his choices by being pedantic about costing nothing.  I'd wager money their bonus payments are substantially less than a months salary.  He's deliberately making working conditions poor for the lowest paid workers at the club.  Then encouraging staff to voluntarily resign.  If you want to reduce staff do it the right way.  Do voluntary redundancies any pay off staff the months worth of salary that they would be due.  A billionaires is making working conditions poor for staff to save a few quid.  

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Froggy

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4 minutes ago, JoeyBartoon said:


Can we include the 200m worth of signings on the bench which Ten Hag made? Stick that into the review 

 

You can include the £120m worth of signings (two of which have been injured all year) that Ten Hag brought on of course. As long as you include the £60m worth you brought on against Brentford.

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Froggy

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7 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

We don't have a seventh choice centre back due to resources.  We were bringing Dummett on.  "33 different back four parnerships" is a failing on Tag to work out what to do back there and playing roulette until something works.  

 

Dummett is a senior player. We were having to dip into our academy. Put it this way. If we had Paul Dummett this season, he'd have played more games for us than he did for you. Infact, he'd have likely played 2 or 3 times as many.

 

That will tell you all you need to know.

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JoeyBartoon

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3 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

You can include the £120m worth of signings (two of which have been injured all year) that Ten Hag brought on of course. As long as you include the £60m worth you brought on against Brentford.


Only if I can include £65m Casemiro as well. Forgot about him being hooked by Ten Hag.  

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KetsbaiaIsBald

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7 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Dummett is a senior player. We were having to dip into our academy. Put it this way. If we had Paul Dummett this season, he'd have played more games for us than he did for you. Infact, he'd have likely played 2 or 3 times as many.

 

That will tell you all you need to know.

 

As I say blinkered.  Maybe a troll too.  (We were also dipping into the Academy with Murphy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Murphy_(footballer))

 

 

 

 

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Froggy

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13 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

As I say blinkered.  Maybe a troll too.  (We were also dipping into the Academy with Murphy for the record).  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Murphy_(footballer)

 

Murphy played 11 minutes. 3 against Chelsea when you were 4-1 up, and 8 against Sheffield United when you were 5-1 up.

 

Against Chelsea your back four was Livramento, Schar, Lascelles and Trippier. Dummett was on the bench for this. 

 

Against Sheffield United it was Hall, Burn, Schar and Livramentio. Krafth was on the bench and Dummett was an unused substitute.

 

You weren't "dipping into Academy." You were giving an academy player a runout. There's a huge difference. Not once did you have to actually rely on Murphy, whereas we were forced to rely on Willy Kambwala. Kambwala played over 600 minutes for us this season despite never playing a minute of senior football before it. Of course he got injured and we then had to start using midfielders at centre back instead.

 

There is no comparison. 

 

 

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KetsbaiaIsBald

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3 minutes ago, Froggy said:

There is no comparison. 

 

bollox.  This conversation has just been on defence as it suits a narrative.  Statistically Newcastles injuries were worse.  This is fact.  This does not include losing Tonali for a season.  On a club that has less than half the resources to spend.  

 

 

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JoeyBartoon

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5 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Murphy played 11 minutes. 3 against Chelsea when you were 4-1 up, and 8 against Sheffield United when you were 5-1 up.

 

Against Chelsea your back four was Livramento, Schar, Lascelles and Trippier. Dummett was on the bench for this. 

 

Against Sheffield United it was Hall, Burn, Schar and Livramentio. Krafth was on the bench and Dummett was an unused substitute.

 

You weren't "dipping into Academy." You were giving an academy player a runout. There's a huge difference. Not once did you have to actually rely on Murphy, whereas we were forced to rely on Willy Kambwala. Kambwala played over 600 minutes for us this season despite never playing a minute of senior football before it. Of course he got injured and we then had to start using midfielders at centre back instead.

 

There is no comparison. 

 

 

 


It’s fortunate the likes of Mainoo and Garnacho were able to step-up because the 700m your club spent over last 5 years have been a disaster 

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Froggy

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6 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

 

bollox.  This conversation has just been on defence as it suits a narrative.  Statistically Newcastles injuries were worse.  This is fact.  This does not include losing Tonali for a season.  On a club that has less than half the resources to spend.  

 

 

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Not fact, as that specific list doesn't include players who were injured before the campaign started. ;)  

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Froggy

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7 minutes ago, JoeyBartoon said:

It’s fortunate the likes of Mainoo and Garnacho were able to step-up because the 700m your club spent over last 5 years have been a disaster 

 

Unforunate Mainoo was injured for half the season, but fortunate Ten Hag was able to get the best out of them yes.

 

Agreed on the transfers. Hopefully with competent executives like Berrada, Ashworth and Wilcox, overinflated transfer fees will be a thing of the past.

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38 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Unforunate Mainoo was injured for half the season, but fortunate Ten Hag was able to get the best out of them yes.

 

Agreed on the transfers. Hopefully with competent executives like Berrada, Ashworth and Wilcox, overinflated transfer fees will be a thing of the past.

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Boey_Jarton

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If you want to compare relative investment in squads between  man united and Newcastle, I suggest you look at rolling 3/5 year averages of combined wages plus amortisation. 

 

Newcastle will eventually close gap on those metrics but they are light years apart at present. 

 

Drawing conclusions on the relative  transfer value of the starting 11s in one particular game is utter nonsense 

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Joelinton7

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From The Telegraph (Mike McGrath): “Rat demands end to reckless Man Utd spending.”

 

“Redundancy Ratcliffe will DEMAND Manchester United’s manager to prepare for next season within tight profit and sustainability rules in a SEVERE END to extravagant net spending.”


He really has come in to cost cut, kill jobs, put out some bravado about “biggest club in the world”, use his influence to lobby for a free stadium and be a shield for Glazer criticism. The euphoria surrounding his entrance has proper hoodwinked them. Basically Mike Ashley with a comb over. He’s going about it like he’s gonna’ make a quick profit and flip. So probably more like The Don at Mackems.
 

On the football side I don’t think he’s got a clue what he’s doing which is evidenced by the circus surrounding their current manager’s status and the situation with our former Sporting Director. 
 

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