greydos Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Bruce did a good job on us, but a terrible job for us. It's important to be clear with the small words that communicate the big difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, magvicar said: Aye he was gung-ho many a time but I call it having a go regardless and his track record is favourable with Rafa's but overall better football for games played excluding Rafa's championship season. Was he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Yeah Bruce couldn't get the best out of him. He also had ASM and Wilson as well mind. Aye. Wilson was always injured and Maxi was the one carrying us forward and did a great job doing so but neglected to track back or chase the ball once lost. However the football was much more enjoyable under Bruce for most part. As far as I'm concerned anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, magvicar said: Aye. Wilson was always injured and Maxi was the one carrying us forward and did a great job doing so but neglected to track back or chase the ball once lost. However the football was much more enjoyable under Bruce for most part. As far as I'm concerned anyway. So if we had Rondon instead of Wilson do you think we'd have scored more than we did under Benitez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: So if we had Rondon instead of Wilson do you think we'd have scored more than we did under Benitez? If we had a regular strong Wilson we would've, I'm fairly confident of that. As for Rondon. He fitted Rafa's style, not Bruce's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, magvicar said: If we had a regular strong Wilson we would've, I'm fairly confident of that. As for Rondon. He fitted Rafa's style, not Bruce's. God MagVicar I just wanna pinch your cheeks and ruffle your hair and tell you how adorable you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: God MagVicar I just wanna pinch your cheeks and ruffle your hair and tell you how adorable you are. I'm bald but I won't take away your enthusiasm, so fill your boots. Edited April 11, 2023 by magvicar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 hours ago, magvicar said: You're obviously entitled to your opinion as are other, as I am. We aren't all going to like some opinions but then again it's all about what one person sees of something against another. It’s not though. It’s ‘about’ effective analysis and ineffective analysis. ‘It’s all about opinions’ is the hallmark of someone with shit opinions. You don’t like him, fine. That’s a feeling, based on who knows what. You’re trying to dress it up as analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, magvicar said: Aye he was gung-ho many a time but I call it having a go regardless and his track record is favourable with Rafa's but overall better football for games played excluding Rafa's championship season. Utter nonsense. The football we played in the second half of 18-19 pissed all over anything seen under Bruce. Have-a-go football ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Dr Venkman said: It’s not though. It’s ‘about’ effective analysis and ineffective analysis. ‘It’s all about opinions’ is the hallmark of someone with shit opinions. You don’t like him, fine. That’s a feeling, based on who knows what. You’re trying to dress it up as analysis. You're entitled to your opinion on what you think I dress it up as but that's my opinion and I won't be wavering on it anymore than you will on what you think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, UncleBingo said: Utter nonsense. The football we played in the second half of 18-19 pissed all over anything seen under Bruce. Have-a-go football ?? So a portion of a season. I'll let you have that. We were in one hell of a state until that change happened. In relegation danger until Rafa went for it. He should've done it at the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, magvicar said: So a portion of a season. I'll let you have that. We were in one hell of a state until that change happened. In relegation danger until Rafa went for it. He should've done it at the start. We came one hell of a lot closer to going down under Bruce than we did under Rafa once we came back up!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Neither Rafa nor Bruce had us playing good football. We were just getting men behind the ball and hoping for something on the break or from a set piece. We had no press at all. Apart from the turnaround in results, it's a major achievement of Eddie's that he's been able to coach a much more positive and attacking performance out of the squad. The usual strategy for getting out of a relegation scrap is to shore up the defence, but he achieved it with the opposite strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: We came one hell of a lot closer to going down under Bruce than we did under Rafa once we came back up!! Such as when? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Cronky said: Neither Rafa nor Bruce had us playing good football. We were just getting men behind the ball and hoping for something on the break or from a set piece. We had no press at all. Apart from the turnaround in results, it's a major achievement of Eddie's that he's been able to coach a much more positive and attacking performance out of the squad. The usual strategy for getting out of a relegation scrap is to shore up the defence, but he achieved it with the opposite strategy. Fuck me. Go and watch the last half of Rafa's last season. We were playing some excellent stuff when it was starting to come together. I think we were sixth or something if you only count the second half of the season. Rafa was his own worst enemy there. That was way above what Ashley has targeted so fuck giving Rafa any support as he's way overachieving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, magvicar said: Such as when? After we got walloped 3-0 away to Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I mean, give Magvicar his dues, as a Mackem I'm sure the football was much more enjoyable when we had Bruce in charge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, magvicar said: Such as when? Such as when Howe took over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: After we got walloped 3-0 away to Brighton. One game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Sean said: I mean, give Magvicar his dues, as a Mackem I'm sure the football was much more enjoyable when we had Bruce in charge I think he did do a bit better for your club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, magvicar said: One game? 34th game of the season 0-2 defeat at home to Arsenal had us 17th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: 34th game of the season 0-2 defeat at home to Arsenal had us 17th. 38th game of the season Rafa had us relegated. Not all his fault but it was still relegation under him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, magvicar said: 38th game of the season Rafa had us relegated. Not all his fault but it was still relegation under him. Ah right. You're judging Rafa with only 10 games left of the season after inheriting McLaren's shitstorm. Blissfully ignoring the pretty solid defence Bruce inherited from Benitez, which he obliterated and then had us languishing 17th for the second half of the 20-21 season. https://www.nufc.com/html/2020-21html/fixtures.html Edited April 11, 2023 by MrRaspberryJam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Ah right. You're judging Rafa with only 10 games left of the season after inheriting McLaren's shitstorm. Blissfully ignoring the pretty solid defence Bruce inherited from Benitez, which he obliterated and then had us languishing 17th for the second half of the 20-21 season. https://www.nufc.com/html/2020-21html/fixtures.html What he inherited was a very very good squad to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, magvicar said: What he inherited was a very very good squad to be fair. Agreed, no idea how Bruce dismantled it so easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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