Eddie Howe

[r0cafella]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

Such as a witnessed gentleman's agreement, contract terms that stipulate situations eg if club X come in then something comes into play, or us just outright breaking the terms of the contract, plus plenty of other possibilities. 

 

For the latter part that sounds unrealistic unless the action was against another club rather than Isak himself. 

 No such agreement has been mentioned anywhere isak would have leaked this long by now. And even if this was the case legal action would take years to resolve so it's basically worthless at the stage. 

 

Id like to take the time to remind everyone Liverpool literally rejected an offer for Suarez which triggered his release clause, they didn't give a fuck. 

[r0cafella]

If people agree with Eddie's stance it's fine like, I think it's wet as fuck personally and obviously not the only way we can handle it. 

 

Mans basically run it the white flag. 

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

He still didn’t have to say that. He could have deflected and said that “Isak currently is a Newcastle player” and left it at that, right?

 It certainly clears up why they're not doing what we've been saying they should do, but why it's the case and what damage making that public does I'm not sure.

[Magpie Mover]

It’s very unhelpful that he said that and unnecessary.

[Kanj]

Ya not my interpretation of that press conference at all. He’s clearly and thinly veiled way of putting this all on Alex. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

It just appears to be airing the dirty laundry to me. I can’t think of any good reason to be nothing but cagey around it.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Granted I could be missing something obvious but WTF?

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

 No such agreement has been mentioned anywhere isak would have leaked this long by now. And even if this was the case legal action would take years to resolve so it's basically worthless at the stage. 

 

Id like to take the time to remind everyone Liverpool literally rejected an offer for Suarez which triggered his release clause, they didn't give a fuck. 

Regardless of whatever answers you have for the potential reasons we can't simply say 'you're staying', the reality is still that Howe has just said it. Whether that's a lie or whether there are genuine reasons for it being true, who knows.

[Ellis H]

Surely we’d have had some leaked info from his side if Isak had a leg to stand on here? We all know about Wissa’s alleged agreement for example.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

It just appears to be airing the dirty laundry to me. I can’t think of any good reason to be nothing but cagey around it.

Because he wants him gone man, and Eddie is super human but hiding contempt is really hard. 

 

Press officer is a mug we shouldn't be entertaining any questions about Isak. If the club wants to communicate it should be via official statements. 

[Kanj]

He’s not Jose Mourinho and he’s bloody lucky he isn’t becuase Alex could get absolutely slaughtered by Eddie for this and he hasn’t done that to him, yet, Alex has done that to us. Shows you the measure of the man.

 

”wet as fuck” look Roc, I appreciate your passion for this club but that’s not on mate. Not at Eddie. Don’t go there. 

[Ronaldo]

7 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

 No such agreement has been mentioned anywhere isak would have leaked this long by now. And even if this was the case legal action would take years to resolve so it's basically worthless at the stage. 

 

Id like to take the time to remind everyone Liverpool literally rejected an offer for Suarez which triggered his release clause, they didn't give a fuck. 

It wouldn’t be worthless though. Should he not sign for Liverpool *this* summer the club would be liable for damages in such a scenario. Is it unlikely to be the case? Yes, but there’s something in play here that the parties closely involved aren’t divulging and Eddie is as careful, deliberate and nuanced with his words as any manger in the country.

 

 

Edited August 9, 2025 by Ronaldo

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Regardless of whatever answers you have for the potential reasons we can't simply say 'you're staying', the reality is still that Howe has just said it. Whether that's a lie or whether there are genuine reasons for it being true, who knows.

Ki man, we don't need to say anything. We tell the player and his representatives clearly. You can go but the way you've gone about this is obviously incorrect and has the opposite of desired affect. Previously we were ok to let you to at 150m now it's 200m. Please reach out when you have someone willing to pay the price. 

 

You do not make a stand by answering questions of journalist and telling the world well we can't really make him stay

[r0cafella]

Just now, Ronaldo said:

It wouldn’t be worthless though. Should

he not sign for Liverpool *this* summer the club would be liable for damages in such a scenario. Is it unlikely to be the case? Yes, but there’s something in play here that the parties closely involved aren’t divulging and Eddie is as careful, deliberate and nuanced with his words as any manger in the country.

Why would the club be liable for damages? He doesn't have any grounds for any claim against us. He signed a contract. 

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, Kanj said:

He’s not Jose Mourinho and he’s bloody lucky he isn’t becuase Alex could get absolutely slaughtered by Eddie for this and he hasn’t done that to him, yet, Alex has done that to us. Shows you the measure of the man.

 

”wet as fuck” look Roc, I appreciate your passion for this club but that’s not on mate. Not at Eddie. Don’t go there. 

Kanji man, we as a club are wet behind the ears. We are very naive. 

[Kanj]

Us not disciplining him or fining him and not restricting him from the training ground is all calculated too by the way. Only strengthens us upholding the contract he signed and not breaching the contract. Us speaking very positively about him returning to the group, not throwing Alex under the bus…Eddie holding back all is smart. Not wet as fuck. 

 

 

Edited August 9, 2025 by Kanj

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Ki man, we don't need to say anything. We tell the player and his representatives clearly. You can go but the way you've gone about this is obviously incorrect and has the opposite of desired affect. Previously we were ok to let you to at 150m now it's 200m. Please reach out when you have someone willing to pay the price. 

 

You do not make a stand by answering questions of journalist and telling the world well we can't really make him stay

You've lost me tbh. I haven't said anything about him answering journalists questions? I'm only talking about what the 'we can't make him stay' quote actually means. I don't know and neither does anyone but Howe and the people involved. You're doing an awful lot of confident guessing at the moment like.

 

 

Edited August 9, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[Ronaldo]

3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Why would the club be liable for damages? He doesn't have any grounds for any claim against us. He signed a contract. 

In the context of the hypothetical scenario KI suggested. 

[Toon1984]

Eddie could be a politician. He guides his comments, gently to a certain conclusion and that’s the conclusion he wants us to accept.
He doesn’t want a disruptive influence of any kind in the club but he’ll never come out and hammer Isak (he has nothing to gain doing that). In his interviews he certainly doesn’t always tell the truth but he makes you think he is - all comments appear very well planned beforehand.

[r0cafella]

Just now, Ronaldo said:

In the context of the hypothetical scenario KI suggested. 

Not a lawyer but it seems that would be extremely difficult case for him to win and the scenario seems off as we would have heard he promised we would let him go as we have Wissa. 

 

Ki has a love for Eddie which is unmatched no matter what the gaffa says Ki will always be ready to activate for him. I say this respectfully as well. 

[Ronaldo]

Just now, r0cafella said:

Not a lawyer but it seems that would be extremely difficult case for him to win and the scenario seems off as we would have heard he promised we would let him go as we have Wissa. 

 

Ki has a love for Eddie which is unmatched no matter what the gaffa says Ki will always be ready to activate for him. I say this respectfully as well. 

Again, hypothetical. A verbal promise with certain conditions fulfilled is legally binding. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Ronaldo said:

Again, hypothetical. A verbal promise with certain conditions fulfilled is legally binding. 

Yes but again said conversation hasn't happened and trump's touched children but here we are. 

 

The point being even if this were so, it obviously isn't it would need something along the lines of we verbally agree to sell you for x price. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

Not a lawyer but it seems that would be extremely difficult case for him to win and the scenario seems off as we would have heard he promised we would let him go as we have Wissa. 

 

Ki has a love for Eddie which is unmatched no matter what the gaffa says Ki will always be ready to activate for him. I say this respectfully as well. 

it's a really small example but on our last film, the other side claimed that we had a gentleman's agreement with witnesses (which was them completely distorting what actually happened anyway). My lawyer just laughed and told them "good luck with that".

[r0cafella]

My underlying point is in case it's been lost. 

 

Once someone like Isak devices unilaterally they are going to create a situation such as this you can never give in. Players will come and go what I'm writing isn't based on emotion naturally I'm passionate as we all are. 

 

Players and agents we deal with must understand that win wins have to created for sales to possible, we work together to find solutions, you do not go on strike as this will push us to take a position which prevents you from achieving your own goal. 

[Ronaldo]

3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Yes but again said conversation hasn't happened and trump's touched children but here we are. 

 

The point being even if this were so, it obviously isn't it would need something along the lines of we verbally agree to sell you for x price. 

We don’t know it hasn’t happened. We don’t know what conversations have taken place between the club and Isak’s reps prior to the situation unfolding.