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Kaizero

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1 hour ago, joeyt said:

Yeah it's in response to Kaiz's post

3 hours ago, Kaizero said:

The Yank hatred is idiotic given that 90% of all crazy/weird suggestions have come from non-American owners.

 

You've shown one crazy/weird suggestion from a US owner, I've shown three from non-US owners and could continue ad infinitum. My point stands.

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2 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

American-led English clubs were also said to be the ones leading the charge for a European Super League. Man City and Chelsea were apparently always more reluctant, reportedly but that's all we have. 

But Americans are the good guys, even if they force Denmark to sell Greenland, it’s for the greater good!😊 

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5 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

American-led English clubs were also said to be the ones leading the charge for a European Super League. Man City and Chelsea were apparently always more reluctant, reportedly but that's all we have. 

 

This actually touches upon another interesting aspect, who seems the craziest out of the Glazers and Ratcliffe?

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Shit owners = Shit owners

 

Nationality has nothing to do with it. There are great US owners, there are ok US owners and there are shit US owners. Just as there are great, ok and shit owners of other nationalities – including English owners.

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1 minute ago, Kaizero said:

Shit owners = Shit owners

 

Nationality has nothing to do with it. There are great US owners, there are ok US owners and there are shit US owners. Just as there are great, ok and shit owners of other nationalities – including English owners.

 

Which isn't true. Whatsoever. It's as much to do with culture of sport as it has to do with shite owners/wank owners/borderline sociopathic owners.

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3 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

Shit owners = Shit owners

 

Nationality has nothing to do with it. There are great US owners, there are ok US owners and there are shit US owners. Just as there are great, ok and shit owners of other nationalities – including English owners.

Most of yours are shit at decent level though, not your fault or mine 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Kaizero said:

Shit owners = Shit owners

 

Nationality has nothing to do with it. There are great US owners, there are ok US owners and there are shit US owners. Just as there are great, ok and shit owners of other nationalities – including English owners.

Yeah but American owners are REALLY shit.  By far more shit than any other nationality.

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2 minutes ago, toon25 said:

 

Which isn't true. Whatsoever. It's as much to do with culture of sport as it has to do with shite owners/wank owners/borderline sociopathic owners.

 

Nope, it has to do with preconceived stereotypical views of certain people. In other words, good old fashioned racism. Again, the most fucked up weird destructive owners in Premier League history has been British. 

 

All it does is make it harder to make actual arguments against poor ownership when non-constructive insults gets thrown around without merit. Imagine if our biggest argument against Ashley was that "he's English, he doesn't understand football"?

 

 

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1 minute ago, Kaizero said:

 

Nope, it has to do with preconceived stereotypical views of certain people. In other words, good old fashioned racism. Again, the most fucked up weird destructive owners in Premier League history has been British. 

Yeah but Americans are shit, aren't they?

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1 minute ago, Kaizero said:

 

Nope, it has to do with preconceived stereotypical views of certain people. In other words, good old fashioned racism. Again, the most fucked up weird destructive owners in Premier League history has been British. 

Far too biased,  but good luck to you.

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2 minutes ago, Ronson333 said:

You sound it 😀, apologies 

 

PL has only had one ownership group of my nationality, and they fucked up Wimbledon FC so much the club no longer exists :lol: 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

Nope, it has to do with preconceived stereotypical views of certain people. In other words, good old fashioned racism. Again, the most fucked up weird destructive owners in Premier League history has been British. 

 

All it does is make it harder to make actual arguments against poor ownership when non-constructive insults gets thrown around without merit. Imagine if our biggest argument against Ashley was that "he's English, he doesn't understand football"?

 

 

 

 

Bollocks it's fucking racism. 

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Just now, toon25 said:

 

Bollocks it's fucking racism. 

 

racism

/ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/

noun

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial, national or ethnic group

 

:dontknow: 

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Just now, toon25 said:

Yet to make a compelling argument against 100-odd years of American sporting ownership culture, but crack on

 

The onus is on the prosecution, not the defendant. I've stated that 9 out of 10 US owners in English football aren't bad. So far only Boehly and his all-star wish has been brought up as something bad a US owner has done. I've shown examples of bad things non-US owners has done, and could show more.

 

Meanwhile, your argument is that "they have a different culture than us, therefore they are bad!"

 

Without showing any examples of that having an effect on actual real ownership of an English football club. You are basing your argument on a stereotype and saying all US owners are bad because they are American. Not because they are bad owners, or using any example other than them being Americans as an example for why they would be bad owners.

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3 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

racism

/ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/

noun

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial, national or ethnic group

 

:dontknow: 

 

You're making absolutely no sense. There's no discrimination here, just a debate over the potential fate of English football based on the number of American owners.

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1 minute ago, toon25 said:

You're making absolutely no sense. There's no discrimination here, just a debate over the potential fate of English football based on the number of American owners.

 

And I am saying it's not a debate fueled by facts, but racist thinking. None of the "anti-US" people have yet to bring one convincing argument as to why the fate of English football is more at stake due to many US based ownership groups than it already is due to owners of non-US nationalities.

 

A Norwegian ownership group did what I believe is the most damage any owners have done to a club in the PL era when they ran Wimbledon into the ground and moved the club to Milton Keynes. They weren't American.

 

 

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