James Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Just a thought, but what do club managers actually know about goalkeeping? Most managers were outfield players, and the reality is that managers probably only look at the obvious things that take place during game such as a save, a goal, and a caught or missed cross. However during other spells of the game, they are undoubtedly oblivious of the goalkeepers performance. In a situation where defenders are preventing the opposition from having decent chances on goal, or in a situation where the goalkeeper makes himself look good with some spectacular saves which mask his other flaws, the goalkeeper is likely to come out as overrated, and is thus, without fans and manager realising, potentially the one to blame when things go wrong. Given that goalkeepers are not imperative with the tactical dynamics of the rest of the team (assuming he can distribute the ball), surely it would be better if a goalkeeping coach, gets to pick the goalkeeper for each game, and also buys/sells the goalkeepers for his club, as the goalkeeping coach must be the best qualified to judge a keepers performance over 90 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The ability to judge someone elses ability no matter what department is vital if you are a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Goalkeeping coaches most likely give a lot of feedback to managers which amounts to the same thing basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The ability to judge someone elses ability no matter what department is vital if you are a manager. How many managers do you think have this ability. Unless the manager really knows his stuff, and is willing to watch every single step his keeper makes when the opposition is in his own half, then the goalkeeping coach is more likely to have the better judgement. I'm pretty sure I remember hearing that Bob Wilson was in charge of the majority of the goalkeeping decisions when he worked for Wenger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 It's not that hard really is it - for us anyway. If he's fit, Shay plays, if he isn't it's Harper (at the moment), then Krul (at the moment). That took longer to type, than it did to think about, and it's the right answer. Most teams have a definite "Number One" keeper, clubs that don't, tend to struggle it seems to me. I don't think it's that hard to judge if a keeper is in good form, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NSMagpie Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 You're right in general, Taylor27, goalkeeper's positions is different to the rest of the team, and it takes a specialist, usually former goalkeeper himself, to take care of goalkeepers' form. On the other hand, if manager has major responsibility for all the results, it's understandable that he also has the final word in all crucial aspects of the game. Expert goalkeepers' coach can provide opinion and suggest who is doing good job among goalies and why, and who's not. Then it's all up to manager to take or disregard the advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Just a thought, but what do club managers actually know about goalkeeping? Roeder clearly hasnt a ******* clue. Anyone stupid enough to bring Pav in as a stand in should never be allowed to EVER make a decision again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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