macbeth Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 A manager should be able to improve the players in his squad. He shouldn't have to just spend money to bring in his "own" new players. Presumably Roeder (and Souness before him) would have been totally unable to ever manage a national team as they would be limted to a pool of players that they couldn't go about and imrpove through buying. what does that make mourinho somebody who took a Portugese side to win the Uefa then CL He also got lots of brownie points for turning Joe Cole from a step-over ponce to a good team player. That he also had a blank cheque book doesn't mean he can't do other things too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 A manager should be able to improve the players in his squad. He shouldn't have to just spend money to bring in his "own" new players. Presumably Roeder (and Souness before him) would have been totally unable to ever manage a national team as they would be limted to a pool of players that they couldn't go about and imrpove through buying. what does that make mourinho somebody who took a Portugese side to win the Uefa then CL He also got lots of brownie points for turning Joe Cole from a step-over ponce to a good team player. That he also had a blank cheque book doesn't mean he can't do other things too where he could bring in the best players in portugal.....notice he didn't improve chelsea without bringing in one or two Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbeth Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 where he could bring in the best players in portugal.....notice he didn't improve chelsea without bringing in one or two Clearly he had money to spend at Chelsea. Not convinced he had enough money to take a Portugese side to consecutive European titles. Porto have a lot less money to spend than even Rangers and Celtic, never mind the mighty NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 where he could bring in the best players in portugal.....notice he didn't improve chelsea without bringing in one or two Clearly he had money to spend at Chelsea. Not convinced he had enough money to take a Portugese side to consecutive European titles. Porto have a lot less money to spend than even Rangers and Celtic, never mind the mighty NUFC but they had more than their domestic competition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbeth Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 so same as Rangers and Celtic then ? Or Olympiakos, or FC Bruge, or Brondby or .... and Porto are only the second side in Portugal behind Benfica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 portugal produces better players than the others you mention,so having his pick of them is better than having the pick of scottish,belgian,greek or danish players. at the time he was at porto werent benfica struggling financially ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Mourinho's team in his first season was made up with players he didn't buy - Cech, Ferreria, Terry, Carvalho, Bridge, Tiago, Makelele, Lampard, Gudjohnsen, Duff, Robben. only 3 mourinho signings there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 looks like he's having some sort of breakdown tbh. first thing he does after the defeat to alkmaar is have a rant about our substandard defence. Very fucking unproffessional, and if you have a problem with our defence, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT you useless weasel. Now he's saying "players will be going" "no bottlers" etc... and the usual tripe about injuries "i never complain about them honest" stop fucking talking to the media and do some fucking work on our match tactics such as keeping possetion, breaking down teams and defending as a unit. The best way for him to improve us in these areas would be to step the fuck down and tell freddy shepheard to hire a tactically savvy manager for once. Unfortunately if you haven't captained the side or have never owned a season ticket at the club your chances of appointment are slim to nil however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Verlaine Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Mourinho's team in his first season was made up with players he didn't buy - Cech, Ferreria, Terry, Carvalho, Bridge, Tiago, Makelele, Lampard, Gudjohnsen, Duff, Robben. only 3 mourinho signings there. Yes, that bears comparison with Moore, Bramble, Babayaro, Carr, et al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Verlaine Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 looks like he's having some sort of breakdown tbh. first thing he does after the defeat to alkmaar is have a rant about our substandard defence. Very f****** unproffessional, and if you have a problem with our defence, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT you useless weasel. Now he's saying "players will be going" "no bottlers" etc... and the usual tripe about injuries "i never complain about them honest" stop f****** talking to the media and do some f****** work on our match tactics such as keeping possetion, breaking down teams and defending as a unit. The best way for him to improve us in these areas would be to step the f*** down and tell freddy shepheard to hire a tactically savvy manager for once. Unfortunately if you haven't captained the side or have never owned a season ticket at the club your chances of appointment are slim to nil however. You'd have more chance of being taken seriously if you could put your points across coherently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 looks like he's having some sort of breakdown tbh. first thing he does after the defeat to alkmaar is have a rant about our substandard defence. Very f****** unproffessional, and if you have a problem with our defence, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT you useless weasel. Now he's saying "players will be going" "no bottlers" etc... and the usual tripe about injuries "i never complain about them honest" stop f****** talking to the media and do some f****** work on our match tactics such as keeping possetion, breaking down teams and defending as a unit. The best way for him to improve us in these areas would be to step the f*** down and tell freddy shepheard to hire a tactically savvy manager for once. Unfortunately if you haven't captained the side or have never owned a season ticket at the club your chances of appointment are slim to nil however. You'd have more chance of being taken seriously if you could put your points across coherently. You're bright enough to figure out what he means. And you know he's right. Roeder is a fucking terrible manager, with a poor transfer record, woeful tactics, fuck all motivaitonal skill, and little ability with the media. He's a disgrace as a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 looks like he's having some sort of breakdown tbh. first thing he does after the defeat to alkmaar is have a rant about our substandard defence. Very f****** unproffessional, and if you have a problem with our defence, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT you useless weasel. Now he's saying "players will be going" "no bottlers" etc... and the usual tripe about injuries "i never complain about them honest" stop f****** talking to the media and do some f****** work on our match tactics such as keeping possetion, breaking down teams and defending as a unit. The best way for him to improve us in these areas would be to step the f*** down and tell freddy shepheard to hire a tactically savvy manager for once. Unfortunately if you haven't captained the side or have never owned a season ticket at the club your chances of appointment are slim to nil however. You'd have more chance of being taken seriously if you could put your points across coherently. You're bright enough to figure out what he means. And you know he's right. Roeder is a fucking terrible manager, with a poor transfer record, woeful tactics, fuck all motivaitonal skill, and little ability with the media. He's a disgrace as a manager. Canny bloke though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 looks like he's having some sort of breakdown tbh. first thing he does after the defeat to alkmaar is have a rant about our substandard defence. Very f****** unproffessional, and if you have a problem with our defence, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT you useless weasel. Now he's saying "players will be going" "no bottlers" etc... and the usual tripe about injuries "i never complain about them honest" stop f****** talking to the media and do some f****** work on our match tactics such as keeping possetion, breaking down teams and defending as a unit. The best way for him to improve us in these areas would be to step the f*** down and tell freddy shepheard to hire a tactically savvy manager for once. Unfortunately if you haven't captained the side or have never owned a season ticket at the club your chances of appointment are slim to nil however. You'd have more chance of being taken seriously if you could put your points across coherently. You're bright enough to figure out what he means. And you know he's right. Roeder is a fucking terrible manager, with a poor transfer record, woeful tactics, fuck all motivaitonal skill, and little ability with the media. He's a disgrace as a manager. Canny bloke though... Oh, aye, lovely. Doesn't like bottlers, mind. They disappoint him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Mourinho's team in his first season was made up with players he didn't buy - Cech, Ferreria, Terry, Carvalho, Bridge, Tiago, Makelele, Lampard, Gudjohnsen, Duff, Robben. only 3 mourinho signings there. Yes, that bears comparison with Moore, Bramble, Babayaro, Carr, et al. your other option was reading the comment in the context of the conservation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Mourinho's team in his first season was made up with players he didn't buy - Cech, Ferreria, Terry, Carvalho, Bridge, Tiago, Makelele, Lampard, Gudjohnsen, Duff, Robben. only 3 mourinho signings there. Yes, that bears comparison with Moore, Bramble, Babayaro, Carr, et al. your other option was reading the comment in the context of the conservation. Oh, aye, like THATS going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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