Wullie Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Wonder how much of Viduka the whingers and whiners have seen over the past two seasons and how much they have to go on other than boring cliches about him being fat and lazy. I wager 'absolutely fuck all'. Here we go again: I've seen [X player/Y league] a hundred gazillion times, so i know i'm right. I never said that though, so don't misquote me. It was a general comment, put your handbag down, pet. Suggest you don't quote me when saying it then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Viduka scored 19 goals in 37 appearances for Middlesbrough last season, including more in the Premier League than both £17m Darren Bent and £30m* Dimitar Berbatov, and equalling £28m Wayne Rooney. That record of goalscoring alone is not good enough for Newcastle United. *Martin Jol currency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Viduka scored 19 goals in 37 appearances for Middlesbrough last season, including more in the Premier League than both £17m Darren Bent and £30m* Dimitar Berbatov, and equalling £28m Wayne Rooney. That record of goalscoring alone is not good enough for Newcastle United. *Martin Jol currency. And the season he scored 1 in 4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Taking everything into account (age, injury record etc...) I would say Viduka is the best striker we have on our books at the moment. Obviously if Owen can stay fit for the majority of the season then he displaces Viduka, but can't see that happening tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Wonder how much of Viduka the whingers and whiners have seen over the past two seasons and how much they have to go on other than boring cliches about him being fat and lazy. I wager 'absolutely fuck all'. Here we go again: I've seen [X player/Y league] a hundred gazillion times, so i know i'm right. I never said that though, so don't misquote me. It was a general comment, put your handbag down, pet. Suggest you don't quote me when saying it then. Suggest all you like. Your post was typical of that kind of shite, so i used it to quote. Tough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Viduka scored 19 goals in 37 appearances for Middlesbrough last season, including more in the Premier League than both £17m Darren Bent and £30m* Dimitar Berbatov, and equalling £28m Wayne Rooney. That record of goalscoring alone is not good enough for Newcastle United. *Martin Jol currency. None of those players spent two months out with a broken toe either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Wonder how much of Viduka the whingers and whiners have seen over the past two seasons and how much they have to go on other than boring cliches about him being fat and lazy. I wager 'absolutely fuck all'. Here we go again: I've seen [X player/Y league] a hundred gazillion times, so i know i'm right. I never said that though, so don't misquote me. It was a general comment, put your handbag down, pet. Suggest you don't quote me when saying it then. Suggest all you like. Your post was typical of that kind of shite, so i used it to quote. Tough. Fucking clueless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Genuinely can't see how replacing Sibierski with Viduka could possibly be turned into a negative. I guess there's no pleasing some people though, is there? some of us have longer memories and do not see the previous player as the standard to be bettered, especially as there is a different manager and owner Fair enough, but would you agree that Viduka is a vast improvement on Sibierski? the phrase 'vast improvement' does a diservice to Sibierski and completely ignores massive flaws in Viduka you can't even say they are a direct replacement, Sibierski wasn't even a striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Viduka scored 19 goals in 37 appearances for Middlesbrough last season, including more in the Premier League than both £17m Darren Bent and £30m* Dimitar Berbatov, and equalling £28m Wayne Rooney. That record of goalscoring alone is not good enough for Newcastle United. *Martin Jol currency. And the season he scored 1 in 4? What about it? I reckon his most recent season is the best barometer to how well he is playing. Don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Viduka scored 19 goals in 37 appearances for Middlesbrough last season, including more in the Premier League than both £17m Darren Bent and £30m* Dimitar Berbatov, and equalling £28m Wayne Rooney. That record of goalscoring alone is not good enough for Newcastle United. *Martin Jol currency. And the season he scored 1 in 4? What about it? I reckon his most recent season is the best barometer to how well he is playing. Don't you? Only if you assume a player will do the same season after season, which is (A) wrong, and (B) dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Wonder how much of Viduka the whingers and whiners have seen over the past two seasons and how much they have to go on other than boring cliches about him being fat and lazy. I wager 'absolutely fuck all'. Here we go again: I've seen [X player/Y league] a hundred gazillion times, so i know i'm right. I never said that though, so don't misquote me. It was a general comment, put your handbag down, pet. Suggest you don't quote me when saying it then. Suggest all you like. Your post was typical of that kind of shite, so i used it to quote. Tough. Fucking clueless. Abuse disguised as a comment. Not a surprise, but welcome nonetheless. You haven't let me down, thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Genuinely can't see how replacing Sibierski with Viduka could possibly be turned into a negative. I guess there's no pleasing some people though, is there? some of us have longer memories and do not see the previous player as the standard to be bettered, especially as there is a different manager and owner Fair enough, but would you agree that Viduka is a vast improvement on Sibierski? the phrase 'vast improvement' does a diservice to Sibierski and completely ignores massive flaws in Viduka you can't even say they are a direct replacement, Sibierski wasn't even a striker What massive flaws? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Considering all we can offer any player this season is a good wage - i'd say we did about as well as we could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Viduka scored 19 goals in 37 appearances for Middlesbrough last season, including more in the Premier League than both £17m Darren Bent and £30m* Dimitar Berbatov, and equalling £28m Wayne Rooney. That record of goalscoring alone is not good enough for Newcastle United. *Martin Jol currency. And the season he scored 1 in 4? What about it? I reckon his most recent season is the best barometer to how well he is playing. Don't you? Only if you assume a player will do the same season after season, which is (A) wrong, and (B) dangerous. No, I hope he will do something like the same, if not better. If we can't base signings on the most recent form, what can we base them on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Wonder how much of Viduka the whingers and whiners have seen over the past two seasons and how much they have to go on other than boring cliches about him being fat and lazy. I wager 'absolutely fuck all'. Here we go again: I've seen [X player/Y league] a hundred gazillion times, so i know i'm right. I never said that though, so don't misquote me. It was a general comment, put your handbag down, pet. Suggest you don't quote me when saying it then. Suggest all you like. Your post was typical of that kind of shite, so i used it to quote. Tough. Fucking clueless. Abuse disguised as a comment. Not a surprise, but welcome nonetheless. You haven't let me down, thank you. Viduka has never ever scored 1 in 4 in a season in English football. That shows EXACTLY how much you know about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Genuinely can't see how replacing Sibierski with Viduka could possibly be turned into a negative. I guess there's no pleasing some people though, is there? some of us have longer memories and do not see the previous player as the standard to be bettered, especially as there is a different manager and owner Fair enough, but would you agree that Viduka is a vast improvement on Sibierski? the phrase 'vast improvement' does a diservice to Sibierski and completely ignores massive flaws in Viduka you can't even say they are a direct replacement, Sibierski wasn't even a striker What massive flaws? Dod you ever see him before last season?? :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Genuinely can't see how replacing Sibierski with Viduka could possibly be turned into a negative. I guess there's no pleasing some people though, is there? Because some of us want THE RIGHT players, not just "better than the shit we have". So who is the RIGHT player and how much would he cost us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Genuinely can't see how replacing Sibierski with Viduka could possibly be turned into a negative. I guess there's no pleasing some people though, is there? some of us have longer memories and do not see the previous player as the standard to be bettered, especially as there is a different manager and owner Fair enough, but would you agree that Viduka is a vast improvement on Sibierski? the phrase 'vast improvement' does a diservice to Sibierski and completely ignores massive flaws in Viduka you can't even say they are a direct replacement, Sibierski wasn't even a striker What massive flaws? Dod you ever see him before last season?? :lol: Yes. You clearly didn't. His goal record will hold up to anyone's and his natural ability on the ball is fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 If we won the league, Northern Monkey would be on here moaning we didn't do the double. FACT! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Wonder how much of Viduka the whingers and whiners have seen over the past two seasons and how much they have to go on other than boring cliches about him being fat and lazy. I wager 'absolutely fuck all'. Here we go again: I've seen [X player/Y league] a hundred gazillion times, so i know i'm right. I never said that though, so don't misquote me. It was a general comment, put your handbag down, pet. Suggest you don't quote me when saying it then. Suggest all you like. Your post was typical of that kind of shite, so i used it to quote. Tough. Fucking clueless. Abuse disguised as a comment. Not a surprise, but welcome nonetheless. You haven't let me down, thank you. Viduka has never ever scored 1 in 4 in a season in English football. That shows EXACTLY how much you know about him. 05/06 - 7 in 27 league games. Oh, and 3 assists. 04/05 - 5 in 16. 1 assist. 03/04 - 11 in 30. 3 assists. Thats (roughly) - 1 in 4, 1 on 3, 1 in 3. And a shite assist record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Genuinely can't see how replacing Sibierski with Viduka could possibly be turned into a negative. I guess there's no pleasing some people though, is there? some of us have longer memories and do not see the previous player as the standard to be bettered, especially as there is a different manager and owner Fair enough, but would you agree that Viduka is a vast improvement on Sibierski? the phrase 'vast improvement' does a diservice to Sibierski and completely ignores massive flaws in Viduka you can't even say they are a direct replacement, Sibierski wasn't even a striker What massive flaws? Dod you ever see him before last season?? :lol: Yes. You clearly didn't. His goal record will hold up to anyone's and his natural ability on the ball is fantastic. 1 in 4 (near as dammit), like i said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 If we won the league, Northern Monkey would be on here moaning we didn't do the double. FACT! Your facts are as worthwhile as your opinions, which is heartening to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Genuinely can't see how replacing Sibierski with Viduka could possibly be turned into a negative. I guess there's no pleasing some people though, is there? some of us have longer memories and do not see the previous player as the standard to be bettered, especially as there is a different manager and owner Fair enough, but would you agree that Viduka is a vast improvement on Sibierski? the phrase 'vast improvement' does a diservice to Sibierski and completely ignores massive flaws in Viduka you can't even say they are a direct replacement, Sibierski wasn't even a striker So you're saying Sibierski was a better player? Do you think Sibierski was brought in to score goals or create them? Or both? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 If we won the league, Northern Monkey would be on here moaning we didn't do the double. FACT! Your facts are as worthwhile as your opinions, which is heartening to know. Why thank you, you're all heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=41629.msg878518#msg878518 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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