Aphrodite

It's GD excluding games involving Ireland.

They do a little mini-league based on the results of the three teams.

They just prefer it in the continent, they think it's the best indicator of who is the better side in a tie (not unreasonably). I don't really like it as I think it discourages attacking play like Russia.

Russia going out as it stands!

Yep, Czechs have the worst goal difference by a long way.

It's pun o'clock man, give me a break. Anyone got a f***ing clue what's going on with qualification as it stands then? Who's going out apart from Poland? Czechs.

Russia would finish ahead of Greece The table on this page is a very good guide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012_Group_A

What does the asterisk say? Isn't it a joke?

Would love to see one of those countdowns at Scunthorpe-Doncaster or something

AND LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE! Silly stance to be had imo. I'm not saying these things are acceptable but people are extrapolating small incidents to be representative of the whole population. The media have had an agenda for the past few years that Eastern Europe is too 'backwards' to host a major event and I feel that people are playing in with it a bit. Why was no-one saying Euro 2000 was a failure because this happened?

I think the media have created a culture now where people are determined to prove that Ukraine and Poland shouldn't host a major competition, so it wouldn't surprise me to see incidents becoming overblown and overshadowing the tournament. Apart from the training ground incident (which was terrible) I've seen nothing to suggest that there's any risk of it spilling over into the main tournament. It was only a decade ago that our fans were smashing up town squares abroad so I don't know when we became moral arbiters.

That's an overreaction and a half. All the incidents we've seen thus far have been of very isolated groups, of which you could find if you delved enough within every country in Europe. Let's see how the tournament pans out before we start talking about calling it off eh?

Put money on Murray to win French Open at 50/1 a few weeks ago- would be a miracle if it comes off

Put £5 on a draw between Ireland and Hungary, got £17 back.

Need an England win tonight to win me £60 on a 6-team accumulator.

Plus if he was found guilty, comments like this thread could have led to a retrial. You can say this s**** as much as you like, it's not going to make a jot of difference. :lol: Well, it's not shit at all really, discussing and pre-empting a court case whilst it's in progress is contempt of court. Go ahead though.

Plus if he was found guilty, comments like this thread could have led to a retrial.

And now Titus could theoretically sue most of you all for libel.

Need England to win to finish off my accumulator tonight for £70- cmon ya useless bastards.

Not after Italy only drew against Luxembourg and not after Russia only drew against Lithuania. It's surprise-pre-tournament time again. Right time not to bet. Italy never played Luxembourg, it was called off! Really. Oh, silly mistake that. Just looked at Eurosport for the results. Shame on them. It's alright, I only know cos it cocked up my accumulator.

Not after Italy only drew against Luxembourg and not after Russia only drew against Lithuania. It's surprise-pre-tournament time again. Right time not to bet. Italy never played Luxembourg, it was called off!

Got an accumulator on Ukraine (v Estonia), Italy (v Luxemburg), England and Brazil (vUSA) in the next few days- potential £12 win with £3 stake.

I love how one person said 'There must be a reason why the odds are so low' and got ignored.

Sub judice guys..