Howaythelads

It's bollocks, tbh. In actual fact. it's up there with the most stupid posts I've ever read. Explain why! In small syllables please as I am obviously too stupid to understand joined up words. Explain why Fred has failed.

Can't be. That would be a plan.

I've heard that's the limit of Dave's imagination.......

Bright lad. Dunne is better than all of our defenders bar one, anyway. Doesn't mean he's good enough.

I think you're right. I did say "around".

Don't agree there. Think him and Dunne are a very good partnership, and he did very well out-of-position for us. Distin was shite for us.

I reckon somewhere around 95%.

Well done, Fred. Fantastic planning by funding a successful academy, scouting system and coaches. Fred deserves a big pat on the back for bringing these lads through as an alternative to wasting millions of the clubs' (oops, I mean "our") money. Well done, Glenn as well. He's clearly a 'yes man', but hey, Fred told him to bring these lads through so he snapped his fingers and hey presto, he's doing it. Magic.

Really

Does anybody really give a shit?

Not at all, just so long as people realise the hatred of Fred tripe they post is not based on fact. Nor is the recent trend to the daily references to a lack of planning. Does anybody on this forum know what is happening inside the club? I don't, that's for sure. Nor do I believe everything uttered by Roeder or FS, both will say what they are expected to say and they have no duty to spill the beans to the supporters. It doesn't matter whether or not Fred is incompetent, the Board has a history of releasing funds for new players to the point they are slagged off for paying transfer fees that are too high and for shelling out too much on wages. People can't have it both ways. They get slagged for over spending and then slagged for not spending. If the club isn't able to bring players in right now there will be a reason and it won't be down to the the latest and greatest craze of pointing to a lack of planning or the Board being tight fisted. It seems that some people think that if they post certain criticisms often enough they will become facts. Speaking personally, I'd like our club to be run by someone who knows what they're doing. However you slice it, we're one of the world's richest clubs and we're going into our third transfer window in a row without any money. It is Fat Fred who has managed us into this situation, and no one else. I do understand that context is difficult for some. And the big picture impossible for others. We're one of the 20 richest clubs in the world. We've got no money to spend -- again! -- even though we desperately need reinforcements. What's to blame? Gremlins? The weather? Or, just a wild and crazy guess here, the people who are actually running the club? Again? Your post above shows that you don't understand the tiny picture, let alone the big picture. Same old insults, no actual argument. Who runs the club? (Posters who don't have their heads stuck up their arses may find it easier to answer this question.) Heads? Arses?

It's bollocks, tbh. In actual fact. it's up there with the most stupid posts I've ever read.

For anyone who thinks the club has no money for players.....again. Year Players In Players Out Balance 2006 £15,140,000 £ 7,500,000 -£ 7,640,000 2005 £45,500,000 £11,400,000 -£34,100,000 2004 £ 9,000,000 £19,500,000 +£10,500,000 2003 £11,500,000 £ 0.000,000 -£11,500,000 2002 £18,000,000 £ 0.000,000 -£18,000,000 2001 £18,300,000 £ 6,500,000 -£11,800,000 2000 £16,290,000 £14,400,000 -£ 1,890,000 So when exactly was the last time the Board didn't make money available for players? BTW I just added this up in a rush (I'm gannin' oot) from the data on nufc.com at http://www.nufc.com/2006-07html/transfers.html. If I've made a mistake feel free to point it out, I'm not deliberately trying to mislead, just trying to show the facts of the expenditure on players by the club since 2000.

Not at all, just so long as people realise the hatred of Fred tripe they post is not based on fact. Nor is the recent trend to the daily references to a lack of planning. Does anybody on this forum know what is happening inside the club? I don't, that's for sure. Nor do I believe everything uttered by Roeder or FS, both will say what they are expected to say and they have no duty to spill the beans to the supporters. It doesn't matter whether or not Fred is incompetent, the Board has a history of releasing funds for new players to the point they are slagged off for paying transfer fees that are too high and for shelling out too much on wages. People can't have it both ways. They get slagged for over spending and then slagged for not spending. If the club isn't able to bring players in right now there will be a reason and it won't be down to the the latest and greatest craze of pointing to a lack of planning or the Board being tight fisted. It seems that some people think that if they post certain criticisms often enough they will become facts. Speaking personally, I'd like our club to be run by someone who knows what they're doing. However you slice it, we're one of the world's richest clubs and we're going into our third transfer window in a row without any money. It is Fat Fred who has managed us into this situation, and no one else. I do understand that context is difficult for some. And the big picture impossible for others. We're one of the 20 richest clubs in the world. We've got no money to spend -- again! -- even though we desperately need reinforcements. What's to blame? Gremlins? The weather? Or, just a wild and crazy guess here, the people who are actually running the club? Again? Your post above shows that you don't understand the tiny picture, let alone the big picture.

Not at all, just so long as people realise the hatred of Fred tripe they post is not based on fact. Nor is the recent trend to the daily references to a lack of planning. Does anybody on this forum know what is happening inside the club? I don't, that's for sure. Nor do I believe everything uttered by Roeder or FS, both will say what they are expected to say and they have no duty to spill the beans to the supporters. It doesn't matter whether or not Fred is incompetent, the Board has a history of releasing funds for new players to the point they are slagged off for paying transfer fees that are too high and for shelling out too much on wages. People can't have it both ways. They get slagged for over spending and then slagged for not spending. If the club isn't able to bring players in right now there will be a reason and it won't be down to the the latest and greatest craze of pointing to a lack of planning or the Board being tight fisted. It seems that some people think that if they post certain criticisms often enough they will become facts. Speaking personally, I'd like our club to be run by someone who knows what they're doing. However you slice it, we're one of the world's richest clubs and we're going into our third transfer window in a row without any money. It is Fat Fred who has managed us into this situation, and no one else. I do understand that context is difficult for some.

Never did say my opinion of Luque was based on fact though. Never said that people shouldn't express their own opinions, either. I'm positive some people who continually post tripe about Fred believe they are posting facts though. One post even starts with, "Here are the facts"..... http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=35515.msg690655#msg690655 By the way, I'm not sure why you're mentioning Toontastic, I haven't been on Toontastic for nearly a year now so I haven't the foggiest idea what you're talking about. And before you suggest it the answer is NO, I don't have another login. I use this login on every forum I'm a member of.

Not too sure why it was ridiculous, Dave. We only had Zog for the left side and as a young player he was likely to have a dip in form, without even considering the possibility of him being injured. The fact Zog has been injured and out of form would have made Duff a regular starter on the left had he not also been injured. We're lacking in that area, hence the likes of O'Brien and Pattison getting a game there. Having more than one player who can play that position is no different to wanting a couple of decent LB's, imo. If they'd both been fit I'd have been selecting Duff at LB even if Zog was fit, Duff would have been getting lots of games. All fair enough, but the fact remains that we spent a third of our summer budget on a luxury player. Before his signing, with everyone fit there was Zoggy, Dyer and Milner who could play there before we would have to plunge into the youngsters. We spotted a bargain and bought regardless of other priorities. Just like a woman. Maybe, except I don't think Dyer is any use at all on the left. Milner can just about do a job on the left but that's the limit of it. The point I'm making is that we needed cover on the left and that in our present situation if they were both fit they'd both be playing regularly with Duff at LB. Had he been fit he'd now be looking like a required signing, not a luxury signing. You can only buy players when they become available and Duff became available. He is a proven good player who occupies a position that is generally a difficult one to fill with any quality. I'd rather we'd signed a couple of outright strikers yes, but I don't think Duff was a poor buy at the price.

Not at all, just so long as people realise the hatred of Fred tripe they post is not based on fact. Nor is the recent trend to the daily references to a lack of planning. Does anybody on this forum know what is happening inside the club? I don't, that's for sure. Nor do I believe everything uttered by Roeder or FS, both will say what they are expected to say and they have no duty to spill the beans to the supporters. It doesn't matter whether or not Fred is incompetent, the Board has a history of releasing funds for new players to the point they are slagged off for paying transfer fees that are too high and for shelling out too much on wages. People can't have it both ways. They get slagged for over spending and then slagged for not spending. If the club isn't able to bring players in right now there will be a reason and it won't be down to the the latest and greatest craze of pointing to a lack of planning or the Board being tight fisted. It seems that some people think that if they post certain criticisms often enough they will become facts.

Not too sure why it was ridiculous, Dave. We only had Zog for the left side and as a young player he was likely to have a dip in form, without even considering the possibility of him being injured. The fact Zog has been injured and out of form would have made Duff a regular starter on the left had he not also been injured. We're lacking in that area, hence the likes of O'Brien and Pattison getting a game there. Having more than one player who can play that position is no different to wanting a couple of decent LB's, imo. If they'd both been fit I'd have been selecting Duff at LB even if Zog was fit, Duff would have been getting lots of games.

As I don't have knowledge of his exact problem I wouldn't know if it's likely or not.

As I pointed out to you yesterday, why would a man name a player that he was 48 hours away from signing, have the move vetoed by either his board or the selling club and then come out with "It has come to light that this player is rubbish and is no better than what we've got." He wouldn't because it makes him look like a fucking idiot. So I think we can safely say that you're wrong about that one and that the reason we didn't get him is because some kind soul saved Roeder's arse by pointing out that he was shit. I just can't see Roeder being that stupid though. And given his proffesionalism, that was what he perceived as the best recovery option, although it has turned into a PR disaster. It's all conjecture though, none of us really know what is going on, although I can see further than any of the six options I mentioned in the post you quoted. Aye, so just carry on making stuff up.......

Explain?

Forget about Bernard, he will NEVER play for us.... http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=34606.msg671544#msg671544