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No, thats true. Butt is not "inept", he's just "mediocre at his very best". And Parker is "decent int he main". BRAMBLE is inept. Completely agree on Nicky Butt. More like his usual self against Fulham and has been awfully bad on numerous occasions this season. His winner against Spurs was fantastic and some performances have been good, but in the main his passing is inaccurate, he's far too slow, he's not strong enough in the air and for a defensive midfielder he doesn't win the ball nearly enough in one-on-ones. Decent player for someone like Sheffield United, but not what we should consider first team at NUFC. I still maintain that if Scott Parker was asked to play the role that Butt does, as he was a lot last season, then he would excel. Parker simply doesn't have the creative spark/passing/shooting ability to be considered a playmaking midfielder, but I feel his attributes/performances have exceeded Butt's by a long way when played in the same role. It's plainly obvious to me that Parker, even when with Emre, was being asked to be a box-to-box midfielder, instead of a holding player. I don't know how anyone can dispute that, given Roeder's comments about him last season and in the pre-season. Granted the lad has scored goals, but I'd rather see Dyer or Emre in the advanced role alongside him. If Mourinho classed Parker as an anchorman, then that's good enough for me, I don't know what Roeder is playing at trying to suggest otherwise. Parker/Butt together is cringeworthy and reminiscent of the Faye/Clark dynamic duo from last season in terms of an utter lack of creativity. Parker loses the ball far less than Butt and is a far better passer of the ball as well. Couldn't disagree more, tbh.

No, lie often enough and people may believe you....... Here's your unjustified comment which made me tell you to grow up. "Both the original and your amendment are utter garbage so don't waste your effort, Towelie. There was nothing wrong in the way I phrased my first post, but obviously the fact I disagree with your post is causing you to have a "terrible two". Grow up, ffs.

Rubbish. There is no similarity between these players at all.

Name me a better midfielder in the last 25 years. Goals scored. Goals made. Rob Lee Gavin Peacock Scott Sellars Nobby Solano Peter Beardsley (played in midfield under KK) All better than Robert as players, regardless. True. I really don't get the "Robert Wankfest" some people have STILL got going on. He was lucky to have Speed covering for him most of the time he was in the side and even more fortunate to cross balls into Shearer that any normal forward would have no right to win. Having Bellamy "harrying" everything didn't hurt either. Highlighting that it's a team game there, mate. Robert was a superb player for us who lost his way when Souness took over. Don't forget, there were many on this forum who overnight believed Bellamy was shite as well once the Souness propaganda machine got going.

Robert was part of what made us a better side, he was a catalyst along with Bellamy for moving us from medicority to a top 6 side. Luque is a w*anker.

Fixed that little typo. Both the original and your amendment are utter garbage so don't waste your effort, Towelie. Ffs, grow up.

Against the Toon maybe, but now FOR the Toon. Ginola. Not sure about the stats but a MUCH better player. Fact. Ginola was better to watch, but Robert was more effective. Robert scored 32 times in 155 starts, Ginola 7 times in 70 starts. It's not just how many he scored, he created a load as well. Ginola was class as well, mind. I'd take either on the left right now.

Course not, why would I want to read something before replying?

One of the daftest comments I've seen.

Nit-pick, ffs....paranoid, or what.

If we'd signed a striker to play alongside Martins we could have moved Dyer back into CM in place of the inept Parker. Apart from that obvious improvement to the team the point that you're missing mate is wtf would happen if Martins was injured right now and out for the rest of the season? With the number of injuries we've had so far it's not impossible that Martins could get injured at any time. It's a gamble not bringing in a striker.

Butt has been ok this season, I wouldnt say superb, he gives the ball away more than people realise ,if Butt Parker and Emre were all fit I'd have Emre and Parker in there. But then I would tell Parker that he has to be a DM and it dont look like Roeder is gonna do that! Nowt like ignoring the evidence and there's been plenty of it to show that Emre and Parker is a shite pairing. Might as well tell Sibierski to score 30 goals a season. He'll try hard, but he won't do it. Parker doesn't have the ability to be a defensive midfielder, he is unable to read the play so his anticipation is rubbish, he lacks real tackling skills (ie he spends too much time diving in and ending up on his arse) and his passing is terrible. That there is still hype about him gives me hope that we can rid of him in the summer for a decent fee. We won't miss him at all. Read this post just a bit further up the thread... http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=35842.msg699172#msg699172

Bobby signed him. Bobby wanted Miguel but had to settle with Carr instead because he was the cheaper option. You don't always get your first choice, he picked Carr and signed him. End of.

OMG

It's seems there's just no end to people finding something to moan about when it comes to the board and manager. The manager finds a good player and you're still bloody moaning on. If their judgement is so shit that you don't trust them, how come they found Martins in the first place? Did the thought never cross your mind as you were writing that post that the bit in bold is totally out of place and is absolute rubbish?

Out of is depth in the PL.

mackems.gif You'll have to start using words to express your opinion, because I'm confused to whether you're laughing at my assertion that ability-wise they're better than most of the midfield pairings in the prem, or my suggestion that they aren't trying. mackems.gif

Both the Neville's are underrated, I'd argue. From what I've seen of Phil lately I think he's been immense, would have been a quality signing for us, although many would have poo-poo'ed it at the time. Wonder if we could snatch him in the summer? ...Seriously. Doubt he would join now like, and probably doesn't want to leave the North West. Aye. Agreed.

Aye, Parker being included makes me laugh anarl. Dawson makes me laugh but there's no way Taylor should be in there either, if he was I'd laugh at that as well tbh. Good to see Woodgate back in there and I'm also pleased for Phil Neville, who is under-rated imo.

Parker is average at best. It's the same people every week who babble on about how great he is. Workrate is ok but you need a certain level of ability to go with it. Its the same people every week who moan about him. The majority of fans love him, its just some people on here who moan all of the time. Ok, if you say so.

See bold. I'm not sure he's the right man, but why do you say that?

Parker is average at best. It's the same people every week who babble on about how great he is. Workrate is ok but you need a certain level of ability to go with it.

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It's a good point by Madras. For myself, I'd take the winning but I think it likely that some Newcastle fans would complain if we played a boring style of football. We finished 15th for 3 seasons in a row, played like a one man team and scored some spectacular goals, but then we sold the hero number 9 Macdonald. To some fans (I don't think the majority by the end, but a fair number) the football became boring but we played as a team now, we conceded less goals while scoring more or less as many and we finished 5th. We were on the way up yet some people still slag that manager to this day. Ok, we didn't actually win owt, but we were on the way until it all fell apart (again).

Him? Her then, if you please. Her?