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just for dives or for every possible foul ?

What part is that referring to?

Video reviews should be in place for any type of incident whatsoever. Dives, play acting, rolling around on the floor too long, violence etc...

In specifically a situation where a ref is being conned but isn't sure whether it's a dive, or foul and either takes no action or makes a wrong decision, I feel it would be counter productive to sanction the ref.

Obviously if a ref is constantly making mistakes and bad calls, that's a different issue.

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And fuck all that silliness about "if a ref has seen an incident but dealt with it in a wrong way, we can't change it"... Refs should be applauded for getting things right, but can't see everything. If they know the right sanctions will be made in time it would take some pressure off them.

Any sanction taken on the pitch should be able to be increased or decreased upon review according to what is fair.

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1330054873516/noticia/Noticia/Television_images_show_that_Pepe_did_not_touch_Alves__leg.htm

 

Wahey, was about to post exactly that. That whole clip is just desperately sad.

One of the big plus points also with having video review bans, is that it would take pressure off refs. Starting to give refs sanctions for missing something would be extremely counter productive.

Just such a win-win-win situation for all involved... retarded a solid, clear system hasn't already been in place for years.

^ That's what UEFA are hiding behind for sure. How about they start with the obvious ones and go from there?

Seriously, it isn't hard. So many players should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute.

I don't understand why FIFA/UEFA (just like goal line technology) can't see that it's in their best interest long term to clamp down, because it's killing the game as a spectacle and killing the game's credibility.

The biggest problem though is no one is willing to look at themselves, every one passes the buck by saying "ohh but they do this, and those guys do that". Last night was an utter joke and we're going to see it again and again.

What a colossal set of complete c***s involved in that game. Absolutely no dignity, just cheat, dive and use underhand tactics throughout at every opportunity. Will be fully behind Man Utd regardless of who goes through in this one.

Nani?

 

Rooney?

Yes, now Barca will be totally justified in diving about in the final.

Neesy's on the mark, incredibly.

Even a broken clock etc etc... Although I also agree with what he said earlier about the common denominator in these games that turn into farces seems to be the same man.

Personally I enjoy watching teams that are capable of mixing things up. Short passing, crosses, long balls... When Barca aren't getting things their way they seem to just start passing for the sake of passing.

I've always respected ManU's (well Ferguson's) approach in that respect.

Nope, already said both teams were as bad eas each other.

 

Just some people are too blinkered in their anti-barcelona to pick up on this.

It doesn't mean they are pro-Madrid. Just pointing out what the others did isn't a justifiable comeback. As you said both teams were petty and ridiculous and they are getting called out for it.

For those saying Pepe's foul wasn't a red card..

 

http://s4.as.com/prom/201104/pro_photo1303936422.jpg

Wasn't tbf. He deflected some of the ball and didn't go in with excessive force. It's those challenges on the continent you always see the player in Alves' position moan about, when the ball's there to be won.

Lucky, all teams I support never win shit. Frustrating as hell.

Hey, I suffered through the dark ages of 94 and 95!

You should be embarrassed, you only support the Bulls because of Jordan.

 

 

I don't see how anyone could like him.

I support NUFC, man. I have allowed myself this luxury.

The CL record is 12 goals, think he'll do it.

With the 2 goals tonight, even if he's only average in the final and win that could do it.

Messi didn't involve himself once.  He just wanted the ball and wanted to play football.

That's what makes him so great to watch too. He rarely gets dragged down by those around him.

That usually seems to be the case. He stays away from the pettiness and is awesome.

 

FYP

Yeap, felt if he was prominent in his team's run in to winning the CL he'd warrant that extra move up on the scale of greatness. He has delivered tonight.

An embarrassing display of Spanish football.

 

Messi the only player to come out of that game with any credibility.

That usually seems to be the case. He stays away from the pettiness and just tries to be awesome (and often manages to be).

You should be embarrassed, you only support the Bulls because of Jordan.

Wonder what they say about us?

They probably don't give a shit. But it's hardly the point.

I'd be embarrassed to call either of these teams my own. Certainly not start bragging about this win as some sort of achievement.

Exactly... this is what modern football is about (see last Summer's World Cup): Sit through ages of boring and horrible wankerish crap just to see 1 minute of something good.

Pathetic.

The people who constantly bang on about these matches being amazing need a fucking hiding. Sick of hearing about them.

It's allowed to be crap. That happens in any game. The behaviour is inexcusable though.

Wish UEFA would grow a pair of balls. Fucking tragic that this is the kind of 'football' these two teams are serving up. Have some respect for yourself at least if not the game.

Bunch of pathetic wankers.

All 22 players are a disgrace.

Always the same. Having to sit through the constant pettiness just in hope of some brief moments of genius.

Anyone addressing people as "tweeps" on Twitter should be kicked to the kerb like a filthy dog, then stoned to death.

For celebrities or the like who have an army of followers that's okay, but it sounds really weird when regular folk do it.

Giggs is unbelievable really. Still playing most games at 37. I know they were different players completely but by his last season at 35, Shearer looked he was running through tar, Giggs is still really fresh and I think could well play until he's 40.

Aye, some players are natural health freaks. Like Zidane, he seems thinner now than when he was playing even.

That was some textbook stuff, with Rooney holding up just enough to attract another guy, Giggs making the late run, Hernandez run to create space and take away defenders...