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19-0.

Barca managed more attempts on their own goal.

Probably spelled that all wrong, but he gets the idea.

Nope, absolutely perfect!

Leads me to a similar grievance about defenders feeling they are owed a free kick and stay down as play rightly continues to go on around them.

Unless it's pretty serious there's no excuse for just lying down in or around your own area, playing everyone on side or just becoming a liability. Get up and deal with it.

Very much agreed on that one, Neil. Made all the more annoying that it seems to have become a sort of social convention that all involved buy into.

So much so that in France I've heard several people, including professional broadcasters, talk about it being a rule that you are not allowed to touch the keeper inside the 6 yard area.... hummm, no it's not!

Shola should be the one grateful he still gets a look in. Too right he should be willing to play injured

Bendtner is a very good player, he will get his opportunity now to play up front and not on the wing and this will prove it to people.

What's going on with Chamakh? Is he turning out to be a disappointment? or is his spell out of the team just due to temporary form and RvP?

As long as Keegan is right, that's all that matters. I'm glad we got relegated and hope Pardew doesn't get a penny.

By your logic, is the club getting relegated your fault too? Seeing as you didn't help as much as you could have to stop us going down and all that kind of thing.

I didn't take a manager's job at the club, constantly declare how special the situation was and what the position meant and then quit knowingly leaving it in a lurch.

Only thing the fans are guilty of is to have had faith in him.

Hopefully he'll struggle settling and coping with teammates. Doing his thing in his free time. Coming back in a season or two for £12,73 m.

No thanks. Once a traitor, always a traitor.

 

Bollocks. Young and blinded by money - still a geordie. Would take him back at a flash.

Carroll + £20m for Leon Best.

That sums up what Ashley did wrong. And no one is denying that.

Not saying it was his fault. He didn't help though and the verdict of his lawsuit showed he knew exactly in what state he was leaving the club. People need to realise that is now part of his legacy too.

still not convinced getting relegated is better than finishing second.

You keep saying that, but you do realise that Keegan played his part in both those things happening, right?

He did actually warn the fans what Ashley and his mates were like in the aftermatch interview after  the last home game of the season against Chelsea but loads of people like you never listened.

Again with assumed Ashley love.

Why not quit at the end of 08-09 then?

One of the reasons it became as much of a drama and 'untenable' situation is probably also because of Keegan and him creating such a situation where he then believes he is at loggerheads and has to leave. He's done it before. I'm not saying he didn't get fucked over, he did. Just a real shame he felt the need to just pass the buck and in turn fuck over the team.

Chris Hughton seemed to manage alright in compartmentalising and getting on with it.

I seriously suggest you look up the definition of constructive dismissal before making any more absurd second guesses as to what matters to me, or draw equally spurious references to the state of the team at that time.

That's constructive DISMISSAL.

There we go again. I'm not even contesting the verdict at all, more that we even got there. What good did it do anyone other than Keegan? It left the team sportingly in a lurch, that should be part of the bottom line to NUFC fans.

Also, if he was in such a privileged position to know what they were like he could have chosen any time to get the truth out and would no doubt have been backed by all supporters. But he chose to make it damaging.

His lawsuit is very similar to how he quit. Shortermism thinking from him where he was desperate to spite Ashley even though it meant fans and the team would be the ones in the crossfire. Hooray for his 'morals'.

Ashley shouldn't have tried to pander to supporter sentiment by appointing Keegan. Keegan shouldn't have accepted the job when he knew there was going to be a DOF in the picture. Ashley and Wise shouldn't have tried to foist players on Keegan. Keegan shouldn't have walked out on the last day of the transfer window. And the Keegan fan-boys should accept that not every toon supporter is prone to adolescent hero worship.

Exactly. A whole big ball of wrong for all concerned.

A bit rich accusing others of spouting the same old s*** when you roll out the "spat the dummy out" argument repeatedly in the face of evidence compelling enough to convince an independent Premier League panel that KK had been, in effect, forced out.

Yes that judgement again, the one that went a long way exposing what everyone suspected of Ashley but not so much excuse Keegan of quitting again. But as long as he was 'right', ey? That's what matters most, not the state in which it left the team.

and I am not an idiot (particularly high IQ)

Keegan and Shearer are the ones totally at fault for our relegation a couple of seasons back.

There, does that make you feel better. 

Same old shit. Criticising Keegan = Loving Ashley.

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,75153.msg2841019.html#msg2841019

What ARE you banging on about?

The absurdity of thinking KK is completely blameless in the whole situation.

What a finish! Rooney, Drogba, Torres would have been proud of that.

Edit: oh yeah, and Colo.

Proper defender goal scoring instincts from Ivanovic.

Wot?

Ramires

What a player Hernandez is.

Big fan too. Guy is class.