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If either of the refs saw it as being offside on the screen, they should have disallowed it. If by any way he knew there and then what the RIGHT decision was he should have made that be the final ruling. Not even debatable for me.

FIFA is just one big layer of bullshit after another, the linesman and ref could easily have come up with some lie to cover themselves.

Why is a penatly automatically also a yellow card now? Absolutely stupid.

All three terrible new Puma Bordeaux shirts:

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Keegans Euro 2000 was a bit of a shambles but at least we put in a load of effort and went out fighting.

Plus we beat the Germans in it. Was worth it just for that.

... I guess we can keep the World Cup for a little bit longer.

We should keep him for the qualifiers because he'll obviously do okay and get us there, then get a Maradonna type in before the finals.

Sadly it seems he suffers from Svengoranerikssonitis.

Obviously depends on your taste... I just love a rocket!

I'll never know why people have a problem with the word 'have'.

"Fuck of" might be my favourite

Wow... we have a winner for goal of the tourny!

Was the '86 WC ruined by the hand of God?

 

Was the '06 WC ruined by Grosso diving to win a penalty for 10-man Italy to beat the Aussies?

 

etc. etc.

 

In time, these mistakes fade into the background because a football match is 90 minutes long; if a team's good enough they usually show it.

Yet both those teams needed those two decisive incidents to go their way in order to win.

Would of been better of playing Carrick. In fact we should of played as many X-WHU players as poss.

Overload of of.

It's crazy that some asshole with a flag can destroy four years of preparation with his incompetence, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Exactly. FIFA's constant ramming of their FIFA FAIR PLAY stuff makes me more and more sick with every year. Fucking hypocrites.

And the linesmen had been very good up until now with offsides and the like. Had to give...

Another pathetic call.

As long as they make the right decision...

Which they don't.

Not allowed to touch Messi apparently.

Ref called it perfectly that one I thought. Was a foul eventually.

Also why the hell were we all in red and not in the classic vs Germany look of white shorts? Looked shit.

And how many times did you hear the phrase 'Hollywood ball/pass'?

So many times that even before half time it had morphed into them just saying 'Hollywood'.

Nick Collins on SSN "The german wall wasn't back 10 yards for Lampard's free kick before their 3rd goal."

Lampard obviously thought this too. But he decided the best course of action was to shoot it into the wall first then stop to complain to the ref afterwards while they ran up the other end.

It was so good, man. So very good. It had everything.

Beyond it leading to our demise that also is very frustrating about the goal not being given... would have made it into an epic game.

4 games, 3 of which came as standard

I'd have been more proud of England had they had USA's run in the tournament tbh.

To continue with the Lampard bashing, twice today he stopped midrun to claim something with the ref whilst Germany players ran right past him with the ball. Including for the 4th goal. Nice.

I hope that's the end of Lampard in an England shirt too. We shouldn't waste any more time constantly forcing him into our midfield.

 

The same about Terry and Gerrard imo. England should bring in some young players like Germany does.

Don't agree with Gerrard no, I was saying that with Gerrard in mind of course, he still has a lot to give. A choice should have been made a long time ago over one or the other. They have constantly stifled one another and it's been clear for maybe 6 years which one should be picked.

I hope that's the end of Lampard in an England shirt too. We shouldn't waste any more time constantly forcing him into our midfield.

probably more accurate than human error though.

That's also another big point in its favour. Even if it does muck up, margin of error would still be so much smaller than it is now.