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oh yeah.... hadn't even realised, but he was indeed!

That draw against Pompey!!!!

That's the problem with Martins... potentially he could do a lot of things.

... Boro's chances are heart stoppingly worrying.

Don't really like the sound of that at all.

Can't believe they didnt score there.... praise Jesus. Come on get up Duff!!

aaaarrrghghhg... so brilliant from Viduka. Come on!

Ok that was shit from Vids, but he has that in him. So glad he's out there!!!

fucking hell

Definitely a lot of this. Fact that Shearer wasn't going to really be playing was pretty sad, but it turned out to be absolutely brilliant occasion. Still peeved that we played Celtic though... very typical of this fucking club of the last few years: can't do anything right. Even for Shearer's send off. We could have anyone had and it would have been just as class atmosphere wise, but why wasn't it an England XI with lots of ex players he'd played with from England or Blackburn I don't know

Indeed material looks class. Can't help but think every time I see it how close it is to being such a beautiful kit, but it ends up being a bit average. Front just looks far too much like the current one. At least there's no bs going on the short this time around. If only the front really was like this: http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9874/funwithjonas2.jpg

He is absolutely pathetic. Maybe that's what it is.

Pretty sure it's still 2 and 2. Edit: no, you're right... top 3 go straight through!

That's where the plan fall apart though. I wish any other team in the Prem was playing rather than us against Boro. All other teams are doing a great job of getting us good results. We however can't manage shit.

Quite right. What a set of wankers.

Fucking hell.. both of them up front for Chelsea! more interested in getting pens than shooting.

What a pathetic collapse by Iniesta...

Ah right. But no, that wasn't in comparison of the two at all. Was just about Fletcher's and why I don't think it was a foul.

Are you trying to confuse me or something? ... I think my initial post made enough sense. It's not a case of Barton's wasn't a red for same reasons Fletcher's wasn't. The incidents are different. Would you say Barton's challenge was a foul even? Because if you're comparing the two that's what it comes down to. The red cards don't really matter seeing as for Fletcher's any kind of foul=red and we're arguing whether it was a foul at all.

I wasn't stating absolute rules that let you off no matter what but reasons that made Fletcher's not a red. I don't agree, Barton lunged in a speed. Got a small piece of the ball with his heel but basically went over the top of it into whats his name.

Wum? Seriously of course it wasn't a foul. Was actually a very good piece of defending. Joey Barton touched the ball when he tackled Alonso - was that a great bit of defending? Fletcher's wasn't from behind. It was from the side first of all. He didn't go through the player to get the ball and he got the ball first. Whether there's tangling within the same motion is irrelevant. Please don't compare it to Barton's that's stupid. If anything compare it to Beye's red against Man City because it's almost the exact same incident. And of course Beye's red was overruled and ref said he made a mistake.

Wum? Seriously of course it wasn't a foul. Was actually a very good piece of defending.

Wtf? ... yeah because that's exactly the same as here. but if you really want to go with that analogy, then it would be like being accused of rape when it wasn't and going down anyway.

Ridiculous.

But why not use this chance to set the precedent? Fuck "no changing the rules half way". What's fair is fair. If we were in the same position we'd want them to consider it and whether it's Ronaldo, Messi or Fletcher it shouldnt matter who the player involved is.