madras

Regarding Guthrie, it might be a lack of willingness to take responsibility while he's playing next to a more experienced player. Take Butt out of it and that would have to change. subjective call. i'm not so sure he's up to it. It worked well last season with Butt Geremi and Barton in midfield, don't see any reasons why it wouldn't work with Guthrie (better than Geremi), Butt (only slightly worse than Butt six months ago) and Jonas (better than Barton) all seasoned central midfielders 9even geremi had played there plenty) as opposed to guthrie and two more natural and lesser experienced wide players. Butt would still be there. I'd even put Jonas on the bench if we had to play three CMs for this formation to work, with Geremi, Butt and Guthrie in midfield. her being gone is really messing with your brain isn't it ? even in a 3 man midfield i'd have jonas in before guthrie and as i've mentioned the chance of owen and viduka lasting the 90 adequatly we have no need to push the 3 up fronty as of yet.

Regarding Guthrie, it might be a lack of willingness to take responsibility while he's playing next to a more experienced player. Take Butt out of it and that would have to change. subjective call. i'm not so sure he's up to it. It worked well last season with Butt Geremi and Barton in midfield, don't see any reasons why it wouldn't work with Guthrie (better than Geremi), Butt (only slightly worse than Butt six months ago) and Jonas (better than Barton) all seasoned central midfielders 9even geremi had played there plenty) as opposed to guthrie and two more natural and lesser experienced wide players.

Regarding Guthrie, it might be a lack of willingness to take responsibility while he's playing next to a more experienced player. Take Butt out of it and that would have to change. subjective call. i'm not so sure he's up to it.

Guthrie can win the ball in the centre, Butt gives it away far too often anyway. guthrie can...but doesn't enough and he doesn't have the ball enough to take the blame. my guess is the central midfielders will carry the blame as we have one outlet wide (jonas) and without owen,no decent movement upfront. whoever we get in centre mid will get stick for either being negative or losing the ball as the attacking alternatives are so poor.

right now i wouldn't go 3 up front if only from a fitness angle. owen is just back and viduka has had even longer out. i wouldn't trust either to do 90mins.

Both are grounds for Constructive Dismissal, where are we taking this thread? where charles takes the ball......up a blind alley

tricky one though as it needs the midfield to go with it. (see,no jokes or nothing about "when's she back then " or "is she eating for 2" or anything like that)

OK, I don't see any Racism in that. It's interpreted, quite understandably, as the negative stereotype which says muslims = terrorists. Racism is the wrong word because Islam isn't a "race", but it's the same kind of bigotry: taking a negative characteristic from one or some and applying it to all members of a human category. "All them blacks/Jews/Muslims is lazy/miserly/terrorists." Why weren't the Newcastle fans singing it at Tuncay? cos he didn;t bite last season ?

That might come under bullying or harassment. also constructive dismissal..........not me,but i know.

Agreed as a change of contract gets around that one. not just a change of contract. pushing the original contract to its extremes for one employee and not for others is another trick for example.

Asking somebody to work night shift who has a contract to work days only is grounds for constructive dismissal. true,but they are rarely so obvious and clear cut.

Constructive dismissal is where an employer appears to force an employee to resign because of the actions of the employer. Wow. It's like I never even posted that seconds before you. it's just people see your name and keep going. Never a truer word posted on this forum, tbh. see. took me 6mins to realise you posted that. even now i'm replying out of pity

It's not really working within the contract. t'is. they keep within the terms of employment but as you say,make it almost impossible for the employee

Constructive dismissal is where an employer appears to force an employee to resign because of the actions of the employer. Wow. It's like I never even posted that seconds before you. it's just people see your name and keep going.

jonas puts in the defensive work however he is more effective out wide. Both N'Zogbia and Jonas like to come inside and both work hard and get stuck in. I think it could work with the pair of them and Butt/Guthrie until Barton returns. both would be too much of a risk...given the choice, jonas every time.

Constructive dismissal is where an employer appears to force an employee to resign because of the actions of the employer. same thing really

I keep playing Devils Advocate on this so don't take it the wrong way. Do contracts work both ways? I don't think they do and would like to see somebody who breaks it from the other side have to pay the employer for the remainder of the contract. It seems all one sided to me, it's far too easy for one party to break a contract while the other ends up out of pocket if they do it. A contract is a statement of terms upon which 2 parties are willing to be legally bound. If either side has broken the terms of the contract, and it can be proven, they'll lose. Keegan signing his contract in January seemed to happen very quickly iirc. I'd like to think he and his lawyer gave it the once over and he knew exactly what he was signing... isnt constructive dismissal when an employer acts within the contract but does whatever they can to get rid of the employee. Nah, I always understood it was when an employer acts (or fails to act) in such a way as to make it impossible for the employee to carry on doing their job with any credibility or in a sustainable manner with terms and conditions which are not prejudicial to the employee carrying out their duties. same thing really

jonas puts in the defensive work however he is more effective out wide.

the best we have played in the past 18month is that way, the main thing stopping it is players fitness.

I keep playing Devils Advocate on this so don't take it the wrong way. Do contracts work both ways? I don't think they do and would like to see somebody who breaks it from the other side have to pay the employer for the remainder of the contract. It seems all one sided to me, it's far too easy for one party to break a contract while the other ends up out of pocket if they do it. A contract is a statement of terms upon which 2 parties are willing to be legally bound. If either side has broken the terms of the contract, and it can be proven, they'll lose. Keegan signing his contract in January seemed to happen very quickly iirc. I'd like to think he and his lawyer gave it the once over and he knew exactly what he was signing... isnt constructive dismissal when an employer acts within the contract but does whatever they can to get rid of the employee.

there isn't a debate. you have on the one side those who think keegan couldn't ever do any wrong and on the other those who think it's just better if nufc kept any money regardless of the rights and wrongs. one or two are enlightened through their unenlightenment enough to say....i'll decide after the evidence comes out. ironically the world divides itself along similar lines. those who want evidence and proof get swamped by those too emotional to see past their blind,closed minded petty views. there is a third view, is that keegan bottled it like he has at other jobs when he couldn't get his own way they are the mormons of the equation.

there isn't a debate. you have on the one side those who think keegan couldn't ever do any wrong and on the other those who think it's just better if nufc kept any money regardless of the rights and wrongs. one or two are enlightened through their unenlightenment enough to say....i'll decide after the evidence comes out. ironically the world divides itself along similar lines. those who want evidence and proof get swamped by those too emotional to see past their blind,closed minded petty views. There are also those who just have the interests of Newcastle United as a football club at heart. If it can be shown to me how Keegan winning this case will benefit the club I am willing to listen. 2nd part of my first sentence

for all fred made his mistakes i never doubted he at least tried his best for us,even when he has no direct involvment with nufc he still tries to fuck up that lot from over the water......good on yer fred!

there isn't a debate. you have on the one side those who think keegan couldn't ever do any wrong and on the other those who think it's just better if nufc kept any money regardless of the rights and wrongs. one or two are enlightened through their unenlightenment enough to say....i'll decide after the evidence comes out. ironically the world divides itself along similar lines. those who want evidence and proof get swamped by those too emotional to see past their blind,closed minded petty views.

Rio Ferdinand is an awesome defender, Faye is decent. We have different perceptions of adjectives. I'd say Ferdinand was a 'world class' defender. i wouldn't