madras

The multiple different managers and coaches probably havent helped either. I know that doesnt absolve him completely but consitency in the coaching and management would have helped some probably the reason milner aswell then,taylor also,and duff as he was a good player till he came here. False. oh don't let your petty prejudice carry over into reality. he was a good player at blackburn and chelsea. According to a colleague of mine who is a Chelsea season ticket holder and has been for some time he lost it following a series of hamstring injuries and then a dislocated shoulder on boxing day a few years ago and never really fully recovered from those injuries. so was he a good player before those injuries ?

So nothing fundamentally wrong with his game, all thing which can be worked on, Ronaldo had some similar problems in his first year but was given the environment and coaching to iron out those weaknesses. I see no reason why Zog cant solve these problems, hes eternally confident in his abilty and always looking to attack. i see it the other way around. technique etc can be worked on. nouse,finding and using space,picking the right,simple pass etc is not so easily taught. he has the raw ball skill type talent but is severly lacking in the other major areas. How do you explain Ronaldo's transformation from ball carrying antelope to the player he is today? With his decision making and less ball carrying and creativity. I see a lot of similarities between present day Zog and 18 year old Ronaldo. What areas do you think that Zog severly lacks in that cant be worked on to make him the player he could be? Assuming LW is his strongest position. experience. ronaldo learns from experience,n'zogbia doesn't. areas that n'zog lacks....already listed as lack of nouse,decision making,. raw skill wise n'zogbia is to me,as good as fabregas but instead of a player who can dribble 40 yds and take on 5 players without getting himself into a better position give me one who can make the correct pass over 10yds. Do you think Ronaldo would be the player he is now if he shared the same experience as Zog? I dont think you've named anything which cant be improved on, Ronaldo, Rooney even Henry are testeamanet of players being able to learn to improve decision making with the right coaching and environment. to start with both of those players were far superior in most every department than n'zogbia. yes n'zogbia can be improved upon,any player can,but not to the extent that he'd become the player some on here imagins.

The multiple different managers and coaches probably havent helped either. I know that doesnt absolve him completely but consitency in the coaching and management would have helped some probably the reason milner aswell then,taylor also,and duff as he was a good player till he came here. False. oh don't let your petty prejudice carry over into reality. he was a good player at blackburn and chelsea.

The multiple different managers and coaches probably havent helped either. I know that doesnt absolve him completely but consitency in the coaching and management would have helped some probably the for reason milner aswell then,taylor also,and duff as he was a good player till he came here.

So nothing fundamentally wrong with his game, all thing which can be worked on, Ronaldo had some similar problems in his first year but was given the environment and coaching to iron out those weaknesses. I see no reason why Zog cant solve these problems, hes eternally confident in his abilty and always looking to attack. i see it the other way around. technique etc can be worked on. nouse,finding and using space,picking the right,simple pass etc is not so easily taught. he has the raw ball skill type talent but is severly lacking in the other major areas. How do you explain Ronaldo's transformation from ball carrying antelope to the player he is today? With his decision making and less ball carrying and creativity. I see a lot of similarities between present day Zog and 18 year old Ronaldo. What areas do you think that Zog severly lacks in that cant be worked on to make him the player he could be? Assuming LW is his strongest position. experience. ronaldo learns from experience,n'zogbia doesn't. Exactly, because he hasn't had any. 79 league starts over 4 years.........should be showing some signs ,but he doesn't.

So nothing fundamentally wrong with his game, all thing which can be worked on, Ronaldo had some similar problems in his first year but was given the environment and coaching to iron out those weaknesses. I see no reason why Zog cant solve these problems, hes eternally confident in his abilty and always looking to attack. i see it the other way around. technique etc can be worked on. nouse,finding and using space,picking the right,simple pass etc is not so easily taught. he has the raw ball skill type talent but is severly lacking in the other major areas. How do you explain Ronaldo's transformation from ball carrying antelope to the player he is today? With his decision making and less ball carrying and creativity. I see a lot of similarities between present day Zog and 18 year old Ronaldo. What areas do you think that Zog severly lacks in that cant be worked on to make him the player he could be? Assuming LW is his strongest position. experience. ronaldo learns from experience,n'zogbia doesn't. areas that n'zog lacks....already listed as lack of nouse,decision making,. raw skill wise n'zogbia is to me,as good as fabregas but instead of a player who can dribble 40 yds and take on 5 players without getting himself into a better position give me one who can make the correct pass over 10yds.

So nothing fundamentally wrong with his game, all thing which can be worked on, Ronaldo had some similar problems in his first year but was given the environment and coaching to iron out those weaknesses. I see no reason why Zog cant solve these problems, hes eternally confident in his abilty and always looking to attack. i see it the other way around. technique etc can be worked on. nouse,finding and using space,picking the right,simple pass etc is not so easily taught. he has the raw ball skill type talent but is severly lacking in the other major areas.

james milner has a similar ammount of nufc goals to his name,played out of position etc. don't forget n'zogbia played a few games there and he was the worst between himself,milner (out of position) and duff. "his actual position" based on what ? what the player himself thinks (central midfield), or his international manager (left back),or where he done best for us........but 2005-06 isn't a position is it ?

not really. chez also went on to say "Runs with his head down, little awareness, and opts to carry the ball rather than pass and move into space countless times a match." brief but true.

are we going to have a list and description of milners goals ?

I think that's an intriguing point. Why is it he's never had a real chance under these managers in his best position? And they've consistently preferred the underperforming Duff? not just the under performing duff but there was the season when zog,duff and milner were all given a go on the left...milner was the pick of the three.

jonas for the left and someone else for the right. i'd even be tempted to try geremi for the next couple of games.

sounds a good idea to me. 3 days notice would be canny

move back to sunderland

I'd prefer her to talk crap while washing and ironing, alone in the kitchen where she belongs. she cant see the screen from her throne can she mick ?

She should stick to washing and ironing. thats a bit sexist though mick. theres no reason why she shouldn't talk crap aswell as washing and ironing.

I'd rather listen to Brian Moore. at least she was vaguely talking about what was happening on the court

better than brian moore

where as we murder a villa team and go close with 10 men against a citeh team...both of which turn over arsenal......tis a weird league so far this season

she could make it inetresting.........."Oooooh close from kitson, who hasn't scored fro two months,i;m frigging myself mental here whilst stroking my nipples. free kick to stoke for obstruction blowjob"

How you getting down? I'm getting the train, normally get the bus. round the coast or via darlo ? always preferred via darlo myself. used to scare eaglsecliffe for a pint or two back in the day.

guess which team in stripes dropped me in today...happy enought though. clawed some back with a real,psv,panathanaikos,anderlecht just over even money 4-timer.

not very clear *cough* at all then.

today or on wednesday ? on weds he was the only point of attack for them and only lacked a finish.

This is where my knwoledge falls short. Can anyone enter the process of due diligence (if thats the correct phrase) or can you only get to that stage if you have had a bid accepted or met a selling price. Just wondering as JK's comment tonight suggested that the sale wasnt due any time soon as no one had produced the cash (and the americans specifically) i'd guess you have to show some element of seriousness for the company to let you scrutinise their books.